50's SK Gear Advice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On that part I agree with him. If a guild invites me I'm going to play my own character, and if they ask me to play someone else's I'll tell them to get lost. Don't invite me if you don't want me to be---me.

Shadow Knight is by no means hopeless anyway. Less than optimal at the very end doesn't mean wholly incapable. Through most of the game it's good. It'll pull or tank for the lower-tier and some of the middle-tier raids just fine. Runs out of gas as a boss tank around Vindicator, but can continue pulling all the way to the end-game. High-end pulling is more about proving oneself to a guild's established pull team and most guilds stick with what they know or are used to more out of inertia than necessity.

Of course, none of this matters to an already-overgeared solo leveler.

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If a shadow knight thinks disease cloud is all he has to cast in groups, he's probably not very good. That's just serviceable enough to level with and get into a guild that'll hassle him to play something else.

Danth

Oh don't get me wrong, I have raided with my SK before when he was my main, and I have seen some great SK mains with BiS gear. They certainly have a spot in the raid if a guild is willing to use them (which isn't that often sadly).

The reason why I advise against it is because Samoht is specifically trying to bend the conversation in the direction of "Build your character for end game raiding AoW all the time!". Honestly my response to that is "If you are really trying to build a hardcore raiding character, don't do it on an SK in the first place".

His viewpoint just doesn't make sense. If you are a hardcore raider, you probably won't roll an SK for raiding. But if you have an SK, Samoht wants everyone to try and make them the best raid SK possible? It just doesn't add up. Obviously if someone's goal in life is to make the best SK raider on P99, go for it! Some people have done it, and they have awesome characters. But that isn't what most people do, and people should know that SKs are the worst raiding class in the game sadly.

[Danth]

I agree with you there, and if you were to browse my 12 years worth of post history you'd see the proof (obviously--don't do that). I'll play my own guy over some bot when I feel like raiding, but I don't particularly like raiding to begin with and don't do it often. I haven't been to temple veeshan in at least a couple years, now. If I wanted to do that stuff regularly I'd pick something more geared towards that part of the game.

Danth

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First up, Love the AG tag!

Second, I don't know if you were using a pointer to showcase what you were doing better but please buy a keyboard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Third I noticed you got interrupted by a bash, but not because it stunned (it wasn't a stunning hit), just from the bash's innate boost to interrupt chance.

Fourth, I didn't realise Rest the Dead was such a powerful lull! Wow!

Fifth, nice looking weapon, which one is it again?

Thank you for taking the time to record/post.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First up, Love the AG tag!

Second, I don't know if you were using a pointer to showcase what you were doing better but please buy a keyboard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Third I noticed you got interrupted by a bash, but not because it stunned (it wasn't a stunning hit), just from the bash's innate boost to interrupt chance.

Fourth, I didn't realise Rest the Dead was such a powerful lull! Wow!

Fifth, nice looking weapon, which one is it again?

Thank you for taking the time to record/post.

No problem[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Hehe thanks. I still need to move him over to Vanquish, I am bad at moving alts.

2. Yes, I do use keyboard hotkeys. When I am playing for fun sometimes I will use the mouse instead if timing doesn't matter. On my Shaman, for example, I must use hot keys all the time for cannibalizing/Torporing, but on my SK nothing is really that time sensitive when soloing. Could I do better by optimizing my hotkeys for him? Of course, but I haven't needed to go that hard on him.

3. As for the bash interrupt, you are correct. There are two components to a bash. The stun (an automatic interrupt), and the random chance interrupt. Unfortunately nothing in the game can prevent the random chance interrupt, it is completely RNG. FSI on Ogres is good for mitigating the automatic interrupt, which means you still have a chance for success, because you are now rolling on the random chance interrupt.

4. Yeah playing in Undead zones really makes an SK shine, similar to necros. Having lull and a 10 mana fear (Spook the Dead) is really nice. Rest the Dead has a very low agro radius. Only downside is you can't use CHA to help improve your chances. RNG is your friend and only friend.

5. My weapon is https://wiki.project1999.com/Ancient...ched_Flamberge .

[Keebz]

This isn't really my thread anymore, but I'll try to keep updating for posterity. Up to 58 now.

Some good solo spots, 46-51 spectres / LOIO goblins. 51-56 HHK (55 and 56 were dyrna and running upstairs to kill a couple nobles in between spawns) 56 Hole Ent / Tar Goos (they basically deal 0 damage to you, could probably start these earlier) 57 PoM rats / Hole Castle. After 55 it's been about 4% an hour, which is something.

From here I'll do some combo of PoM rats / the Hole.

Soloing tips: Your pet is crucial for DPS even though it seems like trash. I believe you can torch it if it's under DW level. Can summon after splitting to save the headache. Hang out places there are enchanters--a C goes a LONG way (haste is nice too).

Pre-60 desirable Gear list: Soul Defiler, Crown of Narandi, Eyepatch of Plunder, Ring 8. If I get any of these I'll let you know how they help.

Post-60 it's just HP/Resists/AC for me. Don't plan to tank anything crazy, just wanna tag / pull stuff and do fun solo challenges.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't really my thread anymore, but I'll try to keep updating for posterity. Up to 58 now.

Some good solo spots, 46-51 spectres / LOIO goblins. 51-56 HHK (55 and 56 were dyrna and running upstairs to kill a couple nobles in between spawns) 56 Hole Ent / Tar Goos (they basically deal 0 damage to you, could probably start these earlier) 57 PoM rats / Hole Castle. After 55 it's been about 4% an hour, which is something.

From here I'll do some combo of PoM rats / the Hole.

Soloing tips: Your pet is crucial for DPS even though it seems like trash. I believe you can torch it if it's under DW level. Can summon after splitting to save the headache. Hang out places there are enchanters--a C goes a LONG way (haste is nice too).

Pre-60 desirable Gear list: Soul Defiler, Crown of Narandi, Eyepatch of Plunder, Ring 8. If I get any of these I'll let you know how they help.

Post-60 it's just HP/Resists/AC for me. Don't plan to tank anything crazy, just wanna tag / pull stuff and do fun solo challenges.

Hey it is still your thread! Hopefully the discussions here-in were enlightening. Glad to see you are making progress. Getting 5 levels since the start of this thread is impressive. Your list looks pretty good. You may want to add Shawl 7 in there if you get the chance, every bit of mana regen helps. Unfortunately all of the other Flowing Thought I items that SK's get are pretty expensive DKP wise (Cazic Brain/Eye for example). Way more than Soul Defiler typically, so Shawl 7 is probably the easiest Flowing Thought I item to get.

[Keebz]

For FT 1, I looked into the shawl, but that seems like a whole thing. I think Eye will be my eventual target, but I'm not in a rush as Crown and Soul Defiler should give 10 mana a tick. The Brain would be ideal, but that might take me a couple years.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For FT 1, I looked into the shawl, but that seems like a whole thing. I think Eye will be my eventual target, but I'm not in a rush as Crown and Soul Defiler should give 10 mana a tick. The Brain would be ideal, but that might take me a couple years.

True, if you can get Soul Defiler it won't matter too much. Crown won't even be that great if you have Soul Defiler.

Just be aware Soul Defiler is a pretty rare item, and there is usually at least 1 SK you are bidding against. Last Soul Defiler I saw went for like 700 DKP too, and that was only a few months ago. I only suggest Shawl 7 because even though it does take a while to finish, you may be waiting longer on Soul Defiler. Same with Brain or Eye. Everybody on the server wants them (every class/race can use both), and they have a pretty low drop rate. I don't know what your raid attendance is like, but I am just trying to warn you ahead of time. They are great goals for sure, but they are lofty hehe.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For FT 1, I looked into the shawl, but that seems like a whole thing. I think Eye will be my eventual target, but I'm not in a rush as Crown and Soul Defiler should give 10 mana a tick. The Brain would be ideal, but that might take me a couple years.

Honestly, the shawl is a terrible item for what you get for the effort put into it. There are so many better shoulder items out there. If you end up in a guild capable of killing CT, definitely save up for the eye or brain. Don't feel bad for maining an SK, just show up to raids when they're called and be prepared to tank and die as necessary. No matter how little you think you'll contribute to the raid, it will still be as much as or more than anything that DSM plays.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly, the shawl is a terrible item for what you get for the effort put into it. There are so many better shoulder items out there. If you end up in a guild capable of killing CT, definitely save up for the eye or brain. Don't feel bad for maining an SK, just show up to raids when they're called and be prepared to tank and die as necessary. No matter how little you think you'll contribute to the raid, it will still be as much as or more than anything that DSM plays.

Don't trust anything this guy says unfortunately. He is so incapable of admitting he is wrong he will give you wrong advise until the end. I have completely trashed all of his arguments, and created video proof. He has nothing other than insults and silly memes. His idea of what "trash" items are is completely delusional. He has demonstrated in multiple posts he doesn't seem to know much about the raiding scene, either. So take any raiding advise with a grain of salt too.