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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

poll results idk like basically people that identify with that #

the left moved its base from 5 (moderate) to a 2 (far left)

while the right has only moved its base from a 6 to a 6.5

looks like during obama the left even pulled the right to a 5.. to bad all that hard work was ruined by hillary and the DNC

It's become common knowledge that the Iraq/Afghanistan War was a failure. I think that explains the party shift even though it's not true.

[Reiwa]

Here go jiblet

[Jibartik]

This is a measure of how *consistent* voters are in their beliefs, not how extreme those beliefs are.

Just calling 2 "not extreme" does not make it any less so.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here go jiblet

Oh jeez, all they can do is a "nuh-uh, the right are the real extremists".

The right does not consider it hateful to say that kids shouldn't have their genitals mutilated and given puberty blocking hormones when they're barely old enough to spell. That's a new thing, and it's extreme as fuck and it's only on the left. Who has gotten crazier on the right? There have always been the loony christian wackos, but the left's notion of some kind of ascendant army of white supremacists running around is a figment of their imagination.

The meme elon musk posted describes myself and a lot of other people. I never used to call myself conservative, but now people call *me* that based on the same beliefs I've always held.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh jeez, all they can do is a "nuh-uh, the right are the real extremists".

The right does not consider it hateful to say that kids shouldn't have their genitals mutilated and given puberty blocking hormones when they're barely old enough to spell. That's a new thing, and it's extreme as fuck and it's only on the left. Who has gotten crazier on the right? There have always been the loony christian wackos, but the left's notion of some kind of ascendant army of white supremacists running around is a figment of their imagination.

The meme elon musk posted describes myself and a lot of other people. I never used to call myself conservative, but now people call *me* that based on the same beliefs I've always held.

Closer to 'uh guys, this graph isn't depicting what you think it is.'

But go off king

[starkind]

I'd care a lot more about what people like ooloo and horza say if I actually knew anything more about them than that they are antis and very grumpy.

That is not to say I don't care at all. Or I don't care for them as humans. Just that a lot of what I read on this forum seems just disingenuous or just aggressive posturing. Noway I can affirm either of these guys.

Now when some of you say not to cut off ur dicks. Yeah that sunk in. I still am going to tho. Being dickless is going to be an awesome experience that I want to definitely share with others.

There ya go.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Closer to 'uh guys, this graph isn't depicting what you think it is.'

But go off king

So you think the idea that the left has gotten radically more extreme while the right has remained more or less the same in their beliefs over the same time span is wrong or?

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd care a lot more about what people like ooloo and horza say if I actually knew anything more about them than that they are antis and very grumpy.

That is not to say I don't care at all. Or I don't care for them as humans. Just that a lot of what I read on this forum seems just disingenuous or just aggressive posturing. Noway I can affirm either of these guys.

Now when some of you say not to cut off ur dicks. Yeah that sunk in. I still am going to tho. Being dickless is going to be an awesome experience that I want to definitely share with others.

There ya go.

Antis? I don't know what that is. I am grumpy about certain issues though, mostly dealing with children (gender and race indoctrination in schools, and abortion). Those topics do make me grumpy yes. But I'm a nice guy!

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you think the idea that the left has gotten radically more extreme while the right has remained more or less the same in their beliefs over the same time span is wrong or?

No I think the picture doesn't describe spectrum shift. It shows zeal, not position.

Which is what I said? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I think the picture doesn't describe spectrum shift. It shows zeal, not position.

Which is what I said? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes I know, but I'm asking you directly if you think that's true or not (what I asked in the post you responded to), and why?

Nailing you down on specific clear answers is part of the fun!

(that the graph shows zeal is irrelevant to the question of whether spectrum shift is occuring, which it is. That graph just doesn't depict that specific metric)