Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction)

[Ring]

Originally Posted by Lostprophets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, since you guys turned a server chat thread into a shit storm, I will add my Two Cents in here too.

How can a guild KS when you have 4 people, count it FOUR people in zone as we move up to engage? once our 29 was in aggro range and getting feared (not dying mind you) with your four people that's when the rest of your force started to run up past us. That right there makes me want to pull out and dust off the old (out-dated) First 15 card on y'all, or even say that you guys attempted to KS US and Failed, failed hard at that.

I was there, I got feared right away on my level 51 alt and saw all of your straggling members running in from the ramp leading to the room with 4 FG's in it after we cleared the FGs. As for the 4 that wanted to play the cool kids and try to leapfrog us, that's no where near raid force, let alone having a full guild engaged...that's just down right Douchebaggary.


Another thing I'm wondering now is, after getting confirmation from fraps if we ONLY linked the loot in /gu how does Swarws know literally at the same exact time what dropped and say give the bag up or we'll mark as "KS"? I can only imagine some things but I'm not going to get into that and stoop to your level.

Anyway, I got a feeling your all just mad Taken is getting targets now and beat you to something, so you're trying to chalk up the matter and try to switch the tables and say we're the bad guys..? I don't think so.

Put away the tin foil hats, come back to reality and accept your loss like big kids.

Better luck next time.

- Lostprophets

Be a better a lawyer. First 15 only works on mobs that haven't spawned. It's first to engage on anything that's already up.

Q: Can we camp raid mobs?
A: If you choose to lay a claim to an unspawned raid npc, your raid must be at the npc's spawn point with sufficient force. (within aggro range of the npc when it spawns, with at least a 15 member raid party). e.g. (inside Nagafen's Lair) This is the ONLY way claims of unspawned raid targets will be respected.

You were camping inside Naggy's lair on his spawn point with 15 when he spawned?

Feel free to reference this thread for any questions / concerns
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14667

I would suggest they petition FTE and get your loot just because everyone in your guild is so ignorant on how the rules work. Teach you a lesson about trying to run with the big boys, you know??

[booter]

So much tinfoil hat up in here. Please keep thread on target. This isn't RnF.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I am not saying you lack the skill in killing nagafen with low numbers. I am saying that 'holding' or 'kiting' a mob with a person or 2 While your raid runs up has been addressed here. Was it DA and someone with nagafen when it came up? Someone 'holding' Nagafen at the door as the raid ran up or people logged in and tried to claim the mob over a full raid force right at him? Anyway the decision was you can't kite or 'hold' a 'mob' if your force isn't there ready to engage in an attempt to stall or claim 'FTE'. Am I correct in that assumption, or close? Please clarify, I am sure some people that were there can speak more intelligently on the actual happenings that day.

[Haul]

TOOK MAR JARB!!!

[Tibador]

If only the rules were enforced from day 1 with Dont be a "douchebag" then P99 might be a wonderful place to play these days but here we have it.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Tibador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only the rules were enforced from day 1 with Dont be a "douchebag" then P99 might be a wonderful place to play these days but here we have it.

mmmmm... many more people would have been banned and the raid scene would be completely different. unfortunately it's the douchebags the run things here

[bluejam]

Naggy wasn't about messing with anyone - we have a few loudmouths in TR, that's it.

[Duie]

So Which one is it?

Is it 15 to claim which you guys clearly did not have at naggy or First to engage Which you may or maynot of had? OR(as you guys have proven time and time again) is it the rule that best suits your needs when you accually do loose ?

Any other guild on this server has the common curtisy to atleast not leep frog and give the first person to make it a shot You guys however Dont even give that and then wonder why a lot of the people on this server just plain dont like IB/TR as a guild.I kind of wish this was classic EQ because your guild would of been blacklisted long ago.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Duie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Which one is it?

Both, read the rules:

Q: What classifies a mob as "Engaged"?
A: A mob is classified as engaged as long as it has aggro on at least one player.

Q: Can we camp raid mobs?
A: If you choose to lay a claim to an unspawned raid npc, your raid must be at the npc's spawn point with sufficient force. (within aggro range of the npc when it spawns, with at least a 15 member raid party). e.g. (inside Nagafen's Lair) This is the ONLY way claims of unspawned raid targets will be respected.

[Zenlina]

Yes we all know those rules are pretty out dated and stupid, but the real rules that most follow is to respect the other raids party if they are there first in force. Even though this isnt official rules, its what i believe most go by.

And if you are going to say stuff like TMO does this and that, i think it generally applies to TR only because we have to play at there shifty level to even the odds.