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Old 08-13-2011, 12:51 PM
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That is nice Tarathiel, maybe even a ray of hope. Are you guys going to duo trak too?
no, but we tag teamed your mom last night after the raid =D
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:51 PM
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Tiggles, you seem to forget that a lot of original live EQ servers had a set rotation, sometimes even calendar based. Please don't tell me you're one of those "FTE! IT WAS THE EQ WAY" people, because quite a few of us can remember that it most certainly wasn't. It depended on the server, but no servers had 4 day windows on primary targets and incessant sockfests. FTE and FFA is all fine and dandy if it were done properly, but Save the Ayn Rand shit for your economy class. But, perhaps more importantly, don't pull a Loke. The server's raid scene has been crap for a while now (since last year) with intermittent moments of actual competition. Raid rules were changed and still the outcome was the same. I don't feel I need to post exactly how i feel about this or the specifics, and more clearly quite a few people seem to think much the same way. If you really want to start a GM favoritism thread, this would be your best evidence.
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:37 PM
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Yes. Spare me your talk of 'competition'. I don't want the staff to have to come in and tell people how to play you mental midget. On live if you were moving a group to say Efreeti and you killed all the imps except the ones inside his room your group would set up outside and pull. You manage to pull the guards inside leaving him alone, and another guild runs up and ganks him. Anyone that pulled that kind of dickhead stunt would be vilified and eviscerated for such asshole behavior. Here it is encouraged and you peons call it 'competition.' You say other guilds aren't willing to 'compete' so they obviously don't 'deserve' anything because they aren't 'dedicated' or 'hardcore' enough. What a crock of bullshit. And let me be clear again, no one is complaining that if TR or TMO or any guild in the past as Loke referred to gets the gods/dragons because they are willing to text message or mobilize quickly. That was always how things worked.

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is not how 'competition' works. You call yourselves skilled and dedicated and therefore deserving of said targets or mobs when in fact I curse you for the selfish cowards you are. The rules in place only serve the guild on top. This game has always been about camping things AND mobilizing and when you have this 5 day variance all it does is make it easier for certain people to get more and everyone else less. Put the shit back on a fixed timer so people know when it spawns. And LIKE ANY OTHER CAMP the person that got there first has the fucking camp. Your bullshit about being able to leapfrog and steal pulls and show no lack of courtesy or respect is just a transparent veil that enables you to be selfish assholes. Under the 'rules' here the behavior that was not tolerated or allowed on live is fair game and encouraged. But you can claim that it is 'legal' so therefore you are in the right, and doing nothing wrong.

The story is the same, every time one guild pulls a dick move people say "I'm not the one leading" or "It wasn't my call". How about "Yeah I didn't agree with it" or "I didn't approve". Yet those same people go along with it because not to means no loot for them. Too cowardly to stand up for anything and too selfish to say anything. Fire giants were always part of Nagafen I don't remember guilds leapfrogging and training each other once you had your guild at bind corner the last few pulls and the Nagafen attempt was yours. Every chance you have had at affecting a change by your actions on this server you have ignored and went for whatever got you the loot. No thoughts to the long term or what you were doing just going for the phat lewt for you. The actions of the 'top' raiding guilds on this server have created this mess and I have seen no tangible action that leads me to believe they want anything other then what we have. Killing every single mob and ensuring no one else got nothing forces people to poopsock. And quit fucking talking of competition like we have that here you morons have twisted and warped any sense of the word and simply are enablers seeking to keep any kind of system in place that servers you and you alone. Show me otherwise, prove it. Because your actions have spoken loud and clear on this server for quite some time.
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All raid mobs provide an "FTE Shout" that show what guild has engaged. Kill stealing will be severely disciplined. But not really.
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:36 PM
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His post isn't about that. Here are the key points:







You don't want competition, so stop saying you do. Because the above things happen when you get competition, and because most of us aren't willing to stoop to that level, fuck it, have the mob if it's that important to you. If that's how you want to "win", fine. If your idea of winning a bicycle race is to suckerpunch other people competing against you, pushing them into oncoming traffic with your foot, shoving a lead pipe in their spokes, using a blowgun to fire a tranquilizer dart in their neck, etc, so you can be the only one crossing the finish line at the end to the point where no one even wants to show up to the race next time because it's less trouble just to let you win... was it really about who was faster on a bicycle? No.

I can't speak for the others here, but I'm not wasting my personal time helping my guild mobilize and attempt to engage a raid target just to have some douchewafflery (see above) happen that wastes all our time for the night.
His post was about all the unfair things TR / TMO does, but alas, he provides zero proof about the training, kill stealing, whatever conspiracy theory he's cooking up these days. The only valid point he had was that they poopsocked, which I addressed. If TR / TMO are breaking server rules while raiding he should petition and let the GMs handle it.

Your analogy is flawed by the way. Punching someone in a race is against the rules and will get you kicked out. What TMO / TR is doing is training harder than you and finding the will to peddle faster than you in the race. You're losing fair and square. Get the race supervisors to limit the hours they can practice so you can get a win if you want, but as things stand, they're out competing you.
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:44 PM
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they're out competing you.
by out competing you mean sitting in front of a computer longer than the other guys, right?
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:47 PM
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by out competing you mean sitting in front of a computer longer than the other guys, right?
that's been the definition of competition on P99 for a while now. then they leave their PC on for a few days and leave their char afk'd and that's also competition, but the latter one they usually complain about how much they hate doing it and yet keep doing it.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:04 PM
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by out competing you mean sitting in front of a computer longer than the other guys, right?
Yeah, that's generally what you do when you play a computer game. I think you out compete a lot of people on these forums!
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:06 PM
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Yeah, that's generally what you do when you play a computer game. I think you out compete a lot of people on these forums!
really? when you play a computer game you generally play 12-18 hours a day and get text messages sent to your phone to log in at 4 am on a work day?

yeah, that sounds to be what people generally do!
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:11 PM
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That's how every MMO I've ever played works actually.. more time invested and a higher level of preparation leads to more rewards. Isn't that pretty much the entire point of playing an MMO? I mean, that is what a level based system encourages right.. it's not like they get any easier or take any less time the higher you get.. and a lot of people want to get max level (yes you can do this while having fun) not run around roleplaying that you're a bear or some retarded shit.

So ya, I think hardcore mmo players typically do put a lot of time into the game they're playing, not sure what other game you've been playing but that's how it works and thems the breaks.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:20 PM
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That's how every MMO I've ever played works actually.. more time invested and a higher level of preparation leads to more rewards. Isn't that pretty much the entire point of playing an MMO? I mean, that is what a level based system encourages right.. it's not like they get any easier or take any less time the higher you get.. and a lot of people want to get max level (yes you can do this while having fun) not run around roleplaying that you're a bear or some retarded shit.

So ya, I think hardcore mmo players typically do put a lot of time into the game they're playing, not sure what other game you've been playing but that's how it works and thems the breaks.
i disagree, but you're in TR so you'll produce some bullshit defense mechanism to justify your unhealthy play time
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