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Old 03-16-2010, 01:51 AM
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Question: What if more than one force decides to camp a raid mob as soon as it dies, for all seven days?

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Old 03-16-2010, 01:56 AM
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Question: What if more than one force decides to camp a raid mob as soon as it dies, for all seven days?

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then this will come down to the judgement of the common people. if you really believe people are gonna camp a mob for seven days (seriously? you guys whined about us camping 1 day ahead, which started this whole mess) then let them decide amongst themselves what seems to be fair, whether rolling for the mob, or competitively enduring all 7 days and then finishing the mob on their terms, granted a 3rd or 4th guild does not come along and take the mob, or perhaps a raid of 60 commoners.
Its up to the people to decide what they respect.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:39 AM
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They have, asshole, the leadership of Divinity and now Gothic Circle have both said they want to scrap it out and take what's theirs.
Then let them agree here, and we can all come to an appeasement. Also lets hear from the rest of server, as everyone is going to want to raid at some point. Its not my world, its not your world. settle with that fact.

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You can try to make it seem like it was Inglourious Basterds that had the raid system changed ALL YOU WANT buddy, but some of us have an alternate view of history.
Nizzarr, of inglorious basterds, did come up with the spawn variance, and while this would work in a perfect world, Norrath is not one.

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I seem to remember a day when raid bosses were NOT REGULATED by any rules except KS. There was no firm camp policy, there was no such thing. I seem to remember a certain guild thinking - for no apparent reason - that just because they put ass to floor for 24 hours, that that somehow entitled them to claim on a boss that hadn't even spawned yet.
if your only rule is to KS, instead of settling like real people, then there is PVP for you. while i don't think KSing, leapfrogging, asshatery is the best way to settle a kill, i would 100% say ANYONE would rather have this than the POSSIBILITY of cheating, hacking, blah blah. and if you guys have nothing to worry about, then whats the big deal? im saving you 4 day guessing camping useless zones.

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The GM ruled in Transcendence's favor, for WHATEVER REASON, but that does NOT FUCKING IMPLY that the rules were like that in the first place. You fucking moron.
GMs ruled in favor of whatever they saw fit for the situation. if you're implying GM favoritism, then you're still months behind, and possibly a few brain cells short.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:44 AM
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Yeah Nizzarr came up with it, I know that. I snapped at him hella hard over that. If you remember, I had several OTHER ideas.

The fact that Nizzarr wrote the framework for the current system has NOTHING to do with the fact that NILBOG implemented it. Moron.

KS is a SERVER rule. The only SERVER rule that covered the Nagafen situation that night. That you're implying it's somehow my rule is cute. You're cute.

Not implying GM favoritism dude. Not implying anything. I threw my hands up in the air as to the "why" of that (and many other) situations a long time ago.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:45 AM
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Then let them agree here, and we can all come to an appeasement. Also lets hear from the rest of server, as everyone is going to want to raid at some point. Its not my world, its not your world. settle with that fact.



Nizzarr, of inglorious basterds, did come up with the spawn variance, and while this would work in a perfect world, Norrath is not one.


if your only rule is to KS, instead of settling like real people, then there is PVP for you.


GMs ruled in favor of whatever they saw fit for the situation. if you're implying GM favoritism, then you're still months behind, and possibly a few brain cells short.
smoke more, or smoke less, stop being a halfass stoner.
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if your only rule is to KS, instead of settling like real people, then there is PVP for you.
Look at Nilbogs Signigture. This is exactly what he doesnt want.


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GMs ruled in favor of whatever they saw fit for the situation. if you're implying GM favoritism, then you're still months behind, and possibly a few brain cells short.
smoke more, or smoke less, stop being a halfass stoner.

Where did that tinfoil hat go? time for Hasbin to wear it again.
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Old 03-16-2010, 01:57 AM
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Also you're a fucking idiot. You realize that's what we wanted in the first place? (minus camping mobs for days and days you are dumb for that) LOL now your shit guild doesn't get anything and you're trying to reverse the situation... no thanks pal

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Old 03-16-2010, 02:05 AM
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You realize that's what we wanted in the first place?
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then lets getcha what you wanted then, as we did not oppose to this either, your guilds attitude and unwillingness to comply with anything started the whole forced rotation. Lets get back to classical raid rules, which is what the people wanted.
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:11 AM
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as we did not oppose to this either, your guilds attitude and unwillingness to comply with anything started the whole forced rotation. Lets get back to classical raid rules, which is what the people wanted.
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hahahaha no it isnt you idiot, have you even paid attention to the happenings of this server at all?
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Old 03-16-2010, 02:16 AM
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Can a mod please remove the <<<waa waa pay attention to meeeee>>> from the title?

I accidentally thought this was an important topic. I want my 5 minutes back (although that chair gif was p cool).
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You realize that's what we wanted in the first place?

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then lets getcha what you wanted then, as we did not oppose to this either, your guilds attitude and unwillingness to comply with anything started the whole forced rotation. Lets get back to classical raid rules, which is what the people wanted.
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Edit: Bed. I'll talk to you all tomorrow, I would also love to hear an opinion from someone not in IB or Trans, or a GM(Preferably this one when all valid points have been argued)
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