Chira numbuh wan!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Christians don't care if people shit talk them, they just forgive and move on with their lives

They also don't have time to be perpetually offended because they are in heterosexual marriages, have full time jobs and families to raise which occupies the vast majority of their free time

Well there is also strength in numbers. We are the dominant religion in terms of numbers

I would imagine there is a stark difference in how Christians in Africa or Arabic countries might feel

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was there a Crusade before 732?

Islamic Conquest of Syria (634-638) - Capturing Christian-majority regions, leading to numerous battle-related deaths.
Islamic Conquest of Egypt (639-642) - Overthrow of the Byzantine rule, involving conflicts with local Christian populations.
Islamic Conquest of North Africa (647-709) - Prolonged campaigns against Christian Berbers and Byzantines.
Conquest of Spain (711-718) - Overrunning the Visigothic Christian kingdom with significant battles.
Sack of Amorium (838) - A major Byzantine city sacked during the Abbasid Caliphate's campaigns.
Siege of Constantinople (717-718) - A failed attempt by Umayyad forces that caused many Christian casualties.
Invasion of Sicily (827-902) - Muslim forces engaged in prolonged warfare with local Christian populations.
Battles of Toulouse and Tours (721, 732) - Frankish forces defending against Umayyad invasions into Frankish territories.
Raid on Rome (846) - Muslim raiders sacked the outskirts of Rome, including St. Peter's Basilica.
Byzantine-Arab Wars (7th-11th century) - Continuous frontier skirmishes and battles between the Byzantine Empire and various Muslim states, causing numerous casualties on both sides.

THEN the crusades start.

"The Christians expansion through violence!"
- Anti Western Islamic sympathizer

[shovelquest]

Why did the crucades happen?

Answer: Because islamic theocratic armies were geocoding Christians.

Botten: Because Christians were trying to expand their hydra religion around the world.

[shovelquest]

The one, the literal ONE TIME Christians organized and fought against Islamic theocracy killing innocent people, they were called racist colonizers.

Isn't that ironic, that literally the exact same shit is happening to the Jewish religion right now.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crusades and Christian global expansionism through violence says otherwise.

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[Ekco]

that horse on the far right has seen some shit. god damn

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The one, the literal ONE TIME Christians organized and fought against Islamic theocracy killing innocent people, they were called racist colonizers.

Isn't that ironic, that literally the exact same shit is happening to the Jewish religion right now.

sounds pretty familiar

Hamas murders and/or rapes and/or kidnaps 1400 Israelis on oct 7th 2023

Israel wages a military response, Israel is called the bad guy for destroying Hamas, even though Hamas hides behind women and children because they are brave islamic warriors

[Botten]

Ignoring the crusades where the Pope Innocent III was the first person to essentially reunite Europe after Charlemagne, who was in turn the first person to unite it since the glory days of the Western Roman Empire. Innocent used Crusading as a political tool to get rid of rules who wouldn't tow the line--and it worked, even if it killed tens of thousands in the process.

Quickly listing 4 others:
Inquisition: Persecution and execution of heretics and non-Christians by the Catholic Church.

Colonial Conquests: European powers used Christianity to justify the subjugation and conversion of indigenous populations.

Wars of Religion: Conflicts between Catholic and Protestant states in Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries.

Missionary Violence: Forced conversions and violence against native populations by Christian missionaries.

[shovelquest]

Where in thet bible does it tell the goverment of Spain to become authoritarian and torture people?

Colonial Conquests: European powers used Christianity to justify the subjugation and conversion of indigenous populations.

This is a stupid lie and where in the bible does it say to conquest? WHERE?

Wars of Religion: Conflicts between Catholic and Protestant states in Europe during the 16th and 17th centuries.

By your logic the revolutionary war was a Christian war because it was for Christians to worship freely and rule themselves.

Everything you hate about the Christian religion, was actually the result of "mankind/governance" not religion.

Everything that was horrific that was done by the Islamic religion, was done because their religion outright says to do it.

Governments are bad.

New testament is squeaky clean.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about making a claim to fight white racism? The orange man just stated this too.

Well if we are talking about DEI or AA, that has always been legal racial discrimination

It’s the epitome of the Ends Justify the Means thinking. Everyone acknowledges that discrimination is bad, but if it’s for a good cause then we’ll tolerate it

And it’s the easier, but still inferior approach. Look at women in STEM as an example. Women for some reason seem to gravitate to human services fields like healthcare and education. Rather than putting quotas requiring uneven standards to hire more women into STEM, get to women as kids, and position the possibility of a fulfilling STEM job in their minds. Not as a requirement but as an option

Same approach works for minority representation. Get to them as kids, and convince them of what great life they can live with [x] job. The problem here is mostly a lack of motivation. If there were true motivation, people would find a way