Stop the Socking

[iruinedyourday]

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[Lazie]

Let's deal with reality here a moment for all you Class R guilds.

Right now with the C/R/FFA rotation on mobs the repops brings more mobs to Class R for your rotation.

What is being proposed is a C/R rotation on regular spawns and making repops FFA. For this upcoming week There are 5 C targets outside of VP. 4 R targets and 3 FFA. If it went Full C/R it would simply rotate 6 C and 6 R each week (Trak,Draco and Maestro more obviously but we are just doing a demonstration here.) 24 mobs a month for your R rotation if you change it to that.

Currently as you see there are 4 R mobs. In the 3 way cycle it usually goes 5,3,4,5 etc for each specific class. Or 17 mobs each month for R. Now these mobs still cycle with repops. So say you get 3 repops to add to that 5,3,4,5,3,4,5. 29 R mobs a month on average in this demonstration. Sometimes you will only get 2 repops of course and this also cuts down to 24. Making REPOPS Full FFA cuts off the available mobs on the rotation a lot of your members agreed to. The smaller guilds in that rotation don't compete well on FFA spawns on repops. So they have to wait in that line for lesser mobs on the actual rotation. This looks more like a move that limits mobs to the smaller guilds.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) Enable the classic feature /guildwar

2) Any time there is a petition, the guild that is petitioning must /guildwar the other guild

3) Once /guildwar is enabled, all monsters each guild goes after is FFA and contested through PvP

4) Guildwar is only disabled after each side has come to a mutual agreement

^^^ Only pure classic option given in this thread that doesn't involve LawyerQuest + Fraps 24/7 + Massive poopsocking

I have a few things on my list first. But I will try to look at getting a functional /guildwar.

H

[xexbis0]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see that happening at Velious launch either. The hardcores keep saying Velious will keep them busy enough that the casuals will have better chances at Kunark and Old World mobs. I will believe it when I see it.

It certainly will on sim repops. If they decide to race Kunark, they're going to lose certain Velious mobs.

[Clark]

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[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by xexbis0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It certainly will on sim repops. If they decide to race Kunark, they're going to lose certain Velious mobs.

Until the fear revamp, there isn't a single thing worth prioritizing in the old world on a repop. For the first 3-6 months especially, ST keys are just way, way, way, way, too valuable to fuck with anything else. Current class R guilds can probably snag a tormax/statue here and there. because zlandi / klandi / yeli / leni / sont are just far too valuable. Even with just a few keys MOTG / Prog are hilarious pushovers (especially if they let us keep our BPs for a bit -- CLASSIC TIMELINE NILBOG) and really the warders are standard velious fare except ventani who can be a bit of a monster. Really going to need resists to be working properly for that shit to work. Getting max hit with a gorenaire aoe isn't gonna last long.

edit: And most of old world raid encounters become near pointless when velious launches, unlike when kunark launched. Epics either become much easier to attain (mage staff from minis, bard guts from undead trak, vs stones from summoned vs, summoned faydedar etc. etc.) or just outright replaceable like pal/sk epics. BPs from trakanon become twink pieces (and not even good ones at that -- MQing some skyshrine armor isn't exactly hard when you can just tag faction from arena farms), most of VP becomes absolute garbage, especially if they follow timeline and remove things like blood orchid. Inny becomes what, for eyes of innoruuk? CT for...AoNs I guess, until revamp.

[Gimp]

Without reading this thread, I'm gonna make a few assumptions.

1 - Chest has made an appearance talking about championing a class R rotation, server hero status
2 - Someone has mentioned Taken and coth ducking at least twice, probably way more than that though.
3 - Clark has posted lots of pics that make absolutely no sense and add nothing to the discussion
4 - Nothing gets solved from this and this thread will easily reach 30 pages.

How'd I do?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without reading this thread, I'm gonna make a few assumptions.

1 - Chest has made an appearance talking about championing a class R rotation, server hero status
2 - Someone has mentioned Taken and coth ducking at least twice, probably way more than that though.
3 - Clark has posted lots of pics that make absolutely no sense and add nothing to the discussion
4 - Nothing gets solved from this and this thread will easily reach 30 pages.

How'd I do?

4/4 !

[-Catherin-]

I havnt really crunched the numbers but I feel like C/R and then FFA on repops benefits both sides to some degree.

Yes it means mobs become Class R every two weeks instead of three, but it also means Class C is every two weeks instead of three as well. That's an increase for both sides, seeing as how there are only two guilds in Class C, its a greater increase for you.

FFA repops also solves all the current issues with the FFA cycle and allows everyone to compete the way it was meant to be played. ...in my opinion anyways. but coding

[Gimp]

So if there's no more FFA spawns, is Taken still going to employ their coth-duck for 16 hours strategy? Or is that only to spite class C guilds?