Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys, guys, you have some of the best Necros on p99 giving you straight up facts and telling you that iksar is clearly the best race to choose for Necros. What is there to debate?

From a FashionQuest standpoint, dark elf all the way

I'm the best necro on this server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[absol]

Why is this still a debate? Nobody is going to 'win' EQ with a race selection. And even if that was possible, we're talking about the Necro. Out of all the classes, the Necro is the one most likely not to give a hoot what others think.

I'm pretty sure I know whats happening here. You guys aren't Necros at all, and if I catch any more of you in Nektulos, I'm putting your head in a box and sending it back to Reebo.

[Faywind]

This debate has been done many times in the past. Iksar is the min/max choice however you look at it. If you want to play another race that is perfectly fine and you have every right to do so.

My only issue with this debate is those that say the iksar regen is "marginal". It's not, it's extremely useful (especially at 50+ when you really notice it). I just don't want new potential Necromancers seeing these posts and deciding not to go Iksar, level up to 50 and then realise they made a mistake and would prefer to have that extra regen.

It's about spreading misinformation that is the real problem and those that are too stubborn to just accept that regen is the most important trait for a Necro and does make a difference. Iksar Necros just have it easier at 60, that's pretty much it.

I don't believe there is any other class that is affected so much by choosing or not choosing a certain race. I had a Dark Elf Necro but luckily didn't get too high lvl before re-rolling Iksar. I am extremely happy I did that and am now in the 50+ range and loving every minute of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For those who haven't done so yet, Sesserdrix has some compelling arguments as to why Iksar is the best choice and should not be discounted as a small advantage. He has done 1-60 on a non-iksar and iksar so he can really chime in on how much better it is as an Iksar Necro.

Anyways I just don't want people to regret their decision when playing the Necro.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Faywind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This debate has been done many times in the past. Iksar is the min/max choice however you look at it. If you want to play another race that is perfectly fine and you have every right to do so.

My only issue with this debate is those that say the iksar regen is "marginal". It's not, it's extremely useful (especially at 50+ when you really notice it). I just don't want new potential Necromancers seeing these posts and deciding not to go Iksar, level up to 50 and then realise they made a mistake and would prefer to have that extra regen.

It's about spreading misinformation that is the real problem and those that are too stubborn to just accept that regen is the most important trait for a Necro and does make a difference. Iksar Necros just have it easier at 60, that's pretty much it.

I don't believe there is any other class that is affected so much by choosing or not choosing a certain race. I had a Dark Elf Necro but luckily didn't get too high lvl before re-rolling Iksar. I am extremely happy I did that and am now in the 50+ range and loving every minute of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For those who haven't done so yet, Sesserdrix has some compelling arguments as to why Iksar is the best choice and should not be discounted as a small advantage. He has done 1-60 on a non-iksar and iksar so he can really chime in on how much better it is as an Iksar Necro.

Anyways I just don't want people to regret their decision when playing the Necro.

If you're so concerned about new Necros making the right decision then just put your arguement out there, make a good case and then let them decide on their own.

Accusing someone of spreading disinformation when you're not retorting an argument or making one youself is lame and doesn't add anything constructive to the discussion.

[Faywind]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're so concerned about new Necros making the right decision then just put your arguement out there, make a good case and then let them decide on their own.

Accusing someone of spreading disinformation when you're not retorting an argument or making one youself is lame and doesn't add anything constructive to the discussion.

This thread has portrayed all the arguments for it. No need to regurgitate the same thing.

I'm not sure why people get so heated over this topic. You attack everyone that differs from your opinion...let's keep it civil please, I'm just here to have a conversation lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Faywind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread has portrayed all the arguments for it. No need to regurgitate the same thing.

I'm not sure why people get so heated over this topic. You attack everyone that differs from your opinion...let's keep it civil please, I'm just here to have a conversation lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people I've attacked in this thread are the guy who said I'm beneath him and you after you said I'm spreading misinformation and I'm just stubborn. I enjoy having civil discussions on the matter. If you don't want a return of personal attacks, don't make them yourself.

There's a LOT more investigation and debate that can be done on the matter.

[Beinen]

So is it too late to reroll iksar at 22? I'm currently in the middle of trying to grind money for a CoS before its too late.

[Faywind]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people I've attacked in this thread are the guy who said I'm beneath him and you after you said I'm spreading misinformation and I'm just stubborn. I enjoy having civil discussions on the matter. If you don't want a return of personal attacks, don't make them yourself.

There's a LOT more investigation and debate that can be done on the matter.

Hmmm....interesting. I don't recall attacking you personally. Had to read my post again and I don't see where I quoted you or used your name. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either way, Necro is a fun and super powerful class which ever race you decide.

Anyways, I said what I needed to say. Back to the grind! See you all in game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Faywind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmmm....interesting. I don't recall attacking you personally. Had to read my post again and I don't see where I quoted you or used your name. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either way, Necro is a fun and super powerful class which ever race you decide.

Anyways, I said what I needed to say. Back to the grind! See you all in game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't call me by name but you referred to the person who said regen is marginal which are words I used. It triggered me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Beinen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So is it too late to reroll iksar at 22? I'm currently in the middle of trying to grind money for a CoS before its too late.

If you play decently often I'd probably reroll. In my experience you can hit L20 in ~40 hours /played. And Iksar simply is the best, no questions asked.

Also I can't imagine the Circlet of Shadows will ever be too super expensive. Probably thousands have been farmed by now, and the nerf still doesn't occur for quite a while into Velious. Maybe in 2 years it might be 10k rather than 4k or something. And by then Nilbog and Rogean probably will have launched another server anyway.