Coming clean, because why not?

[Pseudosin]

Originally Posted by Waedawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh and I haven't read the whole thread yet, but If you never answer the question, "how much money did you make", you're a fucking hoser. I mean what the fuck kid, just answer the god damn question.

FOIA his tax returns, should be on there.

[Tuljin]

Rofl first Lawyerquest and Frapsquest, now FOIA to get tax returns to determine RMT revenue

You can FOIA anybodys return? I thought it was only for government agencies?

[feanan]

This thread makes me think there is a lot more RMT and dual boxing going on here than I thought.

Cause apparently the majority don't care, as long as you are "cool" or a "good player"

[Bill Tetley]

honestly I always found you to be a mediocre enchanter... not surprised at all you cheated, rmt'd, and betrayed your friends.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does someone spending $$ on a fungi affect you?

In the open world with a free market economy of P99 Blue, it affects players in a number of ways. Normally I stand unopposed to people employing real life assets to purchase success in a game. After all RMT vendors are essentially doing the same thing when they buy a coffee with the cash they've earned from RMT and nobody cares that their money came from selling pixels in an elf simulator with shitty graphics.

That aside, the RMT in a world like P99 Blue distorts not only the economy, but in-game demographic. Sure some places will always be more popular than others, but when people are deriving external benefit for their success in game, then popular in-game locations/items become that much more important. The long term implications are not so dire however, provided RMT vendors focus their efforts on accumulation of items rather than plat itself. In the end the effect would be a supply glut, driving prices down and making rare items more available. This would greatly benefit the 'experiencers' among us, but would miff the 'achievers'. Unfortunately, item and plat accumulation are not mutually exclusive activities and farming rare items inherently brings an influx of cash with it due to junk drops, which only exacerbates the problem with inflation.

[Pseudosin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the open world with a free market economy of P99 Blue, it affects players in a number of ways. Normally I stand unopposed to people employing real life assets to purchase success in a game. After all RMT vendors are essentially doing the same thing when they buy a coffee with the cash they've earned from RMT and nobody cares that their money came from selling pixels in an elf simulator with shitty graphics.

That aside, the RMT in a world like P99 Blue distorts not only the economy, but in-game demographic. Sure some places will always be more popular than others, but when people are deriving external benefit for their success in game, then popular in-game locations/items become that much more important. The long term implications are not so dire however, provided RMT vendors focus their efforts on accumulation of items rather than plat itself. In the end the effect would be a supply glut, driving prices down and making rare items more available. This would greatly benefit the 'experiencers' among us, but would miff the 'achievers'. Unfortunately, item and plat accumulation are not mutually exclusive activities and farming rare items inherently brings an influx of cash with it due to junk drops, which only exacerbates the problem with inflation.

I'd normally agree with you, but due to the unique nature of p99, it'll actually drive prices up. By unique I mean money camps like Fungi and Tranix have been and will be camped 24/7 regardless of if someone is doing it to RMT or to gain in game pp. The demand for money camps, regardless of reason, is disproportionately high. Whether they are RMTing or not the same number of items are going to enter the server no matter what. I would say that supply is going to stay constant no matter what.

Scenario 1: If supply is constant, and you have a pool of players with legit pp as your demand, as long as both stay constant price stays the same.

Enter in the RMTer scene, you still have a constant supply, but now along with your pool of legit players with legit pp as your demand, you have an additional pool of players using either $$$ as currency, or buying pp they wouldn't normally have with $$$. Either way, your supply is constant, and your demand is now the demand from scenario 1 + the additional demand from the new group that wants to obtain via RMT.

Supply stays constant, demand goes up, price increases. So the net effect of RMT is that prices increase items.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Pseudosin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd normally agree with you, but due to the unique nature of p99, it'll actually drive prices up. By unique I mean money camps like Fungi and Tranix have been and will be camped 24/7 regardless of if someone is doing it to RMT or to gain in game pp. The demand for money camps, regardless of reason, is disproportionately high. Whether they are RMTing or not the same number of items are going to enter the server no matter what. I would say that supply is going to stay constant no matter what.

Scenario 1: If supply is constant, and you have a pool of players with legit pp as your demand, as long as both stay constant price stays the same.

Enter in the RMTer scene, you still have a constant supply, but now along with your pool of legit players with legit pp as your demand, you have an additional pool of players using either $$$ as currency, or buying pp they wouldn't normally have with $$$. Either way, your supply is constant, and your demand is now the demand from scenario 1 + the additional demand from the new group that wants to obtain via RMT.

Supply stays constant, demand goes up, price increases. So the net effect of RMT is that prices increase items.

The economyquest is real. Seriously though, who gives a fuck about a sub-minimum-wage RMT payout? If you're that rustled about it then you're basically admitting your real life is less important than pixels

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread makes me think there is a lot more RMT and dual boxing going on here than I thought.

I don't know what kind of absolute level of RMT there is here. I do think there is more than I expected there would be back when I was newer to p99 though. But there's also a shitload of accounts that are permanently banned because of it. Like mine.

"A lot" of boxing? I've probably boxed a total of 5 hours /played in the 5 years I've played p99 like it was a religion. Even if everyone on the server boxed that much, I don't think you could say it is "a lot." I don't mean to try to excuse me boxing, or say that other people should do it... but I don't think there is much going on, and again, the staff come down on people who they catch boxing.

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cause apparently the majority don't care, as long as you are "cool" or a "good player"

You're not still friends with somebody who has been a dick a few times in the whole time you've known them? Either you and some others around here have much higher standards than I do, or you're dicks yourselves [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't expect Kelendil would start hanging out with me again if he saw this thread and was back in P99. But I think those of you who are heavily invested in me wronging someone who is not you are basically just fans in the studio audience at a Jerry Springing recording. But hey, I guess I did invite your judgment right from the get go.

[Tecmos Deception]

And again, I can't believe how many of you believe RMT happens because people sign up for P99 to work it for an hourly wage.

[Thana8088]

Wow, I can't believe the shift in attitude regarding RMT and account stealing. The server really IS changing. I guess it's time to cash in!

Hey Tecmos, what do you think I can get for all my stuff? Any recommendations on a site to use?

Thanks, man!