Aftermath eating a full 10 days raid suspension

[Gimp]

What exactly are you waiting for tomorrow?

[VANVEM]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yesterday it was omgerd you FTEd while past the zone

Today it's ermagerd what a stall, even though sirken was there watching ermagerdddd

How desperate you guys at this point?

Just because Sirken was present for this, doesn't mean it was not in direct violation of the Server rules. And Even if he rules in Aftermath's favor, it is not unprecedented for Rogean to step in and tell him to issue a suspension.

[VANVEM]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly are you waiting for tomorrow?

we are waiting for Aftermath to explain how this was not a stall and that this isnt against the server rules

they will, and they will be wrong

[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't tell if you're legitimately retarded or just acting like it since you're too much of a pussy to post on your actual account.

I've seen 4-5 repops happen while I was on the pad waiting to race for xxx mob. Every Single time the screen starting shaking, the race to PD was on. Therefore, there is a set precedent on how races and repops are treated. To implement a penalty for this one would be saying every repop PD FTE was illegitimate.

What a dumb fucking red neck.

First off - no one cares about your 'good ol boy circle jerk player made ruleset from VP'. The server rules are very clear in terms of tracker FTE and Sirken has already said that quakes or sim repops follow the server's rules.

Q15: Are either of my two trackers allowed to get FTE?
A: Absolutely not. If one of your trackers gains FTE, you need to drop aggro immediately and concede/forfeit the mob.

Q16: Are we allowed to bind at raid mobs? And/or camp out toons at raid mobs?
A: Absolutely not.

Gimpster - Were you not Bind Sight into KT or Statue room during the screen shake? You have no excuse as to why you ran towards the spawn points without them actually even being up and available to contest.

Now I know its very exciting when you are wasted on bud light and your screen shakes but what I find odd is you feel that it is 'ok' to position yourself to aggro raid mobs that were not even spawned before anyone else who legitimately was competing. Seems legit right? Why couldnt the face trackers who were already in the room simply FTE under your logic? Just because they didnt race from the snow? Seems you are picking and choosing when to apply rules and which rules apply to you.

Another question for you- When you entered King Tormax's throne area was he even up? Was the throne occupied?

Do you have your fraps?

A petition is already being reviewed regarding your tracker FTE. It does not matter what you did years ago in VP when the ground shook, the fact remains that you left the starting line to 'race' for raid mobs that did not exist- you essentially were making yourself an additional face tracker watching the spawn.

Grats on not only stalling the shit out of these raid mobs so no other guilds could enjoy the repop and obtaining the rights to them illegitimately- truely a class act.

Dont worry though, I bet he will keep talking about VP precedent that set the gold standard for raiding here.

lol

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Today it's ermagerd what a stall

Second post in the thread:

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They thought that they would ruleslawyer the FTE rule, but completely forgot about the stalling rule. Detoxx so dumb.

Gimp so dumb, too.

[Cochonou]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly are you waiting for tomorrow?

So that you can rule lawyer my expectations?

[Gimp]

VP rules weren't player made, they've been GM enforced for a year or so.

Again, if what I did wasn't legit, he's saying every repop PD was against his tracker FTE rules. So he's either going to rule the way he always has in terms of repop races (no rules broken) or he's going to completely go against his established precedent and rule against it. We'll find out Friday. I have a feeling precedent will win out, as it should.

As far as a "stall", maybe you jerks should have addressed that in the 6 hours of whatever the fuck y'all talked about. I was told it was brought up and nobody would agree on anything, so this kinda stuff will inevitably happen.

Feel free to continue berging, it's keeping me busy at work at least.

PS, I drink Miller. Fuck Bud.

[VANVEM]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VP rules weren't player made, they've been GM enforced for a year or so.

As far as a "stall", maybe you jerks should have addressed that in the 6 hours of whatever the fuck y'all talked about. I was told it was brought up and nobody would agree on anything, so this kinda stuff will inevitably happen.

So if it wasn't brought up, existing rules apply, pretty simple

If Pint and Detox really wanted to make things better they would not have pulled this Bullshit stunt to try and strong arm the rest of the server. If that was truly their intention they should have brought this up and it would have prompted a discussion about it, instead they were vague and tried to be cute. You guys broke the rules, period.

[Gimp]

This is what happens when rulesets are too vague. I tried to tell y'all this kinda shit would happen.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by VANVEM [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if it wasn't brought up, existing rules apply, pretty simple

If Pint and Detox really wanted to make things better they would not have pulled this Bullshit stunt to try and strong arm the rest of the server. If that was truly their intention they should have brought this up and it would have prompted a discussion about it, instead they were vague and tried to be cute. You guys broke the rules, period.

Dude drop the bullshit and read Pints post. He, us, we want to work on making this server better; all while pushing the edge of content and approach. This week's earthquake was done with vague FTE rules on Statue and KT. All we are saying it make the rules direct, to the point, and clear. Until then, with everything in this world when shit is left open to interpretation there will be strong opinions from different perspectives.