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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can save you 400+ pages if you want.

He thinks shamans can compete with mages in group dps. Also thinks they’re better than clerics as a group healer at 60.

The evidence he’s provided thus far was a random solo video and a group video doing about 15 dps over 2 hours.

Crede is providing strawmen because he cannot provide evidence. It is one of the many reasons this thread https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923 has gone on so long. He's usually reasonable in other threads, so I am not sure why he keeps doing it.

He cannot seem to accept that a duo/trio/four player group is killing things that are mostly tankable with Slow/Torpor, which is why a Cleric isn't required for a group like that. Shaman/Enchanter/Monk is a very strong trio, as an example.

The point of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG1Aat1XdbI wasn't to show maximum DPS potential of a Shaman, which he would know if he actually read the thread. He often times doesn't based on what he posts. It is to show that you can use a solo video like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XwiGKTuu2E to mimic group DPS and provide an accurate example of a specific class's DPS.

The idea that you couldn't use a solo video to show class DPS was one of key reasons for this thread containing hundreds of pages of trolling with things like gifs.

I am not sure why Crede thinks a pickup group with a 54 Necromancer and a 57 Enchanter in HS west is going to be an example of a maximum efficiency level 60 group. I certainly never said that.

I have provided multiple videos and math examples for my claims, while he still provides nothing.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crede is providing strawmen because he cannot provide evidence. It is one of the many reasons this thread https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=406923 has gone on so long. He's usually reasonable in other threads, so I am not sure why he keeps doing it.

He cannot seem to accept that a duo/trio/four player group is killing things that are mostly tankable with Slow/Torpor, which is why a Cleric isn't required for a group like that. Shaman/Enchanter/Monk is a very strong trio, as an example.

The point of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG1Aat1XdbI wasn't to show maximum DPS potential of a Shaman, which he would know if he actually read the thread. He often times doesn't based on what he posts. It is to show that you can use a solo video like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XwiGKTuu2E to mimic group DPS and provide an accurate example of a specific class's DPS.

The idea that you couldn't use a solo video to show class DPS was one of key reasons for hundreds of pages of trolling.

I am not sure why Crede thinks a pickup group with a 54 Necromancer and a 57 Enchanter in HS west is going to be an example of a maximum efficiency level 60 group. I certainly never said that.

I have provided multiple videos and math examples for my claims, while he still provides nothing.

Notice all the irrelevance.

He Talks around everything except the fact that his shaman failed to even remotely output dps in a group as was requested very early on in the thread. Also failed to show how shamans are worthy of adding in place of a cleric, when the other group members can easily fill the role of a shaman.

So just wanted to warn you of what to expect.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice all the irrelevance.

He Talks around everything except the fact that his shaman failed to even remotely output dps in a group as was requested very early on in the thread. Also failed to show how shamans are worthy of adding in place of a cleric, when the other group members can easily fill the role of a shaman.

So just wanted to warn you of what to expect.

As you can see, he still doesn't understand the reason for the video I posted. He cannot seem to be bothered to read a succinct summary.

He also continues to keep asking for evidence, while providing none of his own. I have provided plenty of video and math examples, which he hasn't been able to rebut yet.

This is the theme of that thread. Posters like Crede will simply keep saying that all evidence provided is irrelevant as an excuse for why they don't need to provide their own evidence.

[Zephys]

+1

[Gloomlord]

Do you major in self-righteous hypocrisy?

Quite a knack for it, if you don't mind my saying so.

[Gloomlord]

You didn't need to respond, though, DSM.

It's self defence -- it's ego.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't need to respond, though, DSM.

It's self defence -- it's ego.

Posting insults and nonsense about me in another thread is also self defense and ego[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You started the topic in this thread, and I responded. You are the source of the issue, not myself.

Cd288, Crede, and Ripqozko didn't have to respond either. If this was an actual matter of principle, you would be berating them too.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Posting insults and nonsense about me in another thread is not also self defense and ego?[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You started the topic in this thread, and I responded. You are the source of the issue, not myself.

Cd288, Crede, and Ripqozko didn't have to respond either. If this was an actual matter of principle, you would be berating them too.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Join kittens today

Indeed. Kittens are a great group of people. Meow!

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Posting insults and nonsense about me in another thread is also self defense and ego[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You started the topic in this thread, and I responded. You are the source of the issue, not myself.

Cd288, Crede, and Ripqozko didn't have to respond either. If this was an actual matter of principle, you would be berating them too.

Whatever lies help you sleep easier at night, I guess.