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China not rising makes them even more dangerous. They have millions of nationalistic morons who are willing cannon fodder to “take back” Taiwan, and if we don’t defend a free, modern democracy, everything we allegedly stand for is BS. Tail wagging the dog on both sides. If Xi just continued to modernize and give his people any level of freedom, they’d ascend to world #1 and not need to deliver Taiwan. But nationalism may be all the communist party can deliver In any case, we will win because people like me will happily suicide bomb chinese rather than let midget satanic hellspawn triumph, but I imagine it will be a conflict like no other and any alternative would be preferable I used to never think any of these jokers would be crazy enough to mess with 1700 f-35s, but crAckhead Russians will die by the millions to take back Ukraine, a shit hole that produces cam whores and sunflower oil. What will Chinese, even bigger morons, give to take Taiwan?
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09-12-2023, 09:40 PM
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the US isn't gonna defend taiwan. If china moves to take taiwan, a mass brain drain will occur. every single person with a tech based skill will be spirited away to the US.
everyone who works for TSMC will go work in their new fab facility in Arizona, and the facilities on taiwan will be destroyed. the island has no strategic value as a barrier, it's too close to the mainland. it's value is as a defense installation and nobody in the world wants to invade china, so that makes it useless outside of political optics. what will happen however, is a trade blockade. china will run out of all imported fuel and food in less than 1 month, which is a huge blow because they have over a billion people and cannot hope to feed them all with domestic resources. 1 carrier group in the malacca strait, and 1 carrier group south of japan. after that the US can rely on it's existing land installations in the pacific as both china and the US lob cruise missles at each other for say ~3 months for the optics and face saving, then they'll sign a treaty and go back to being frenemies. china won't use nukes, they are forbidden from doing so by their own constitution outside of territorial defense. Taiwan will fall, semiconductors will be reshored to the US, Japan and South Korea. Chinese people will experience famines and shortages, revolt and take down the CCP. CCP knows this, so outside of political rhetoric, they recognize that the cost of taking taiwan isn't worth, but they sure love to talk about it. for chinese economics, it's much more valuable having taiwan keep doing what it's doing. making stuff that the chinese can't steal or counterfeit. considering that the chinese real estate market has crashed which was 30% of their GDP, and other sectors weakening as literally everyone (even chinese companies) are scrambling like mad to find other, safer places to manufacture their junk now that mexican, vietnamese, indian etc. labor is cheaper than chinese. Xi has never given the wider world any indication that he's a madman hell bent on empire building. From the outside, all we see is a guy who wants to make china rich, and will stop at nothing from accomplishing that. He's only got everything to lose if he moves on taiwan, of course there is the logic that because china is weakening, he has to get it done ASAP. Knowing that the US won't send troops to the island, he could calculate that the economic fallout is a price he's willing to pay for at least several decades, for a piece of territory that really kinda does belong to china. it's the same logic Putin has about ukraine, which was russian territory for hundreds of years until western forces decided it should be an independent country. personally, I don't care. I like war movies, and we need wars to keep making war movies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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09-12-2023, 10:28 PM
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Except the US is incapable of reliably evacuating more than a few people out of Taiwan before China locks it down til later in the war or forever. It's also cute you think South Korea wouldn't be immediately overrun and that any carriers within 800 mi of China wouldn't be immediately sunk.
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09-12-2023, 10:38 PM
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remember back in 2021 when russia was massing on ukraines border and in belarus, while claiming it's just running drills and manauvers? nobody bought that, so come invasian time even with it's outdated equipment and farmers with store bought rifles, they were able to stave off the offensive long enough for the west to realize russia had bitten off more than it can chew. and that the ukrainian people were tougher than we thought. its like ~100 miles from mainland china to taiwan across open water, even if missles are flying and planes are bombing, there are still many many ways to get people out. definitely rest assured that the DIA knows which people it wants to bring to this side. they learned their lessons during operation paperclip when they were racing against the soviets to "capture" nazi scientits. and if it goes tits up, just a single C-17 can launch 45 cruise missles from as far as Korea and take out every fab facility before the chinese can claim a beachhead, which will be very difficult to do because there are less than 12 places on taiwan where a beach landing is even thinkable, and less than 4 weeks per year where the tides won't smash landing craft on the rocky shores that compose most of taiwans coast. taiwan has pretty much all the same modern military hardware that any NATO nation has, they will mine the shit out of their coast lines, and parachutes make radar light up like a christmas tree invading taiwan is a super ridiculously tall order that doesn't make sense militarily or economically, it would be an exercise in CCP ego alone. Xi has never given any indication that ego is enough. They'll rattle the saber all day long of course, they have to keep up the facade that they are a super power. | |||
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