Shadow knight aggro

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok. We get it. Say stuff once and leave it there. I have seen the same fucking sentences over and over. Sometimes worded slightly differently but still.
As it is, id prefer trolls than spammers. Some trolls are at the least entertaining.
But please, continue repeating ones self and calling out trolls. Repeatedly.

Tell the trolls to stop repeating themselves, spamming, and trolling. The problem will be solved. You are asking the wrong person.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll put this in the simplest terms possible, as it seems like people don't seem to grasp the concept of a 6 second timer. Or they are trolling. It's hard to tell which at this point. You can test this out in game easily, it isn't difficult to do yourself. This isn't theorycrafting.

Scenario A - Spam Taunt:

1. Press Taunt
2. Taunt fails for whatever reason (bad timing, mob distance, lose the random number game)
3. Switch your style to strategic taunting
4. Wait 6 seconds
5. Press Taunt again
6. Taunt succeeds
7. Continue taunting as necessary (mob flips again, multiple mobs are in camp, etc.)

Scenario B - Strategic Taunt:

1. Press Taunt
2. Taunt fails for whatever reason (bad timing, mob distance, lose the random number game)
3. Switch your style to strategic taunting
4. Wait 6 seconds
5. Press Taunt again
6. Taunt succeeds
7. Continue taunting as necessary (mob flips again, multiple mobs are in camp, etc.)

The only difference between the two scenarios is spamming taunt has a lower chance of success on the first taunt. After that you can switch to strategic taunting for all subsequent taunts until the situation is under control. Nobody is disagreeing with the fact that spamming taunt has a lower chance of success on the first taunt, including myself. Nor have I ever argued otherwise.

The benefit of spamming taunt is it allows you to save APM and/or brain power to focus on other things, while still retaining some benefit. You get +1 hate every 6 seconds, and an 8.33% chance of taunting at the right time. There are multiple posters in this thread who have claimed that they do not use taunt at all. Spamming taunt is certainly better than never using it if you were to pick between the two. A tank who spams taunt is factually generating more agro than a tank who never uses taunt. Putting taunt on an existing macro you are already spamming (bash/slam perhaps) is effortless, and gives you extra agro for free. Due to the cooldown timer of taunt being 6 seconds, you can always switch strategies as necessary. If you as the tank are losing agro every 30 seconds, then you can stop spamming taunt and use it strategically until you can figure out why you are losing agro so often.

Spamming taunt will more than likely increase APM, it doesn't save it. Next.
+1 hate every 6 seconds is mathematically rounded down to 0 threat. Next.
The majority of knights will not have slam nor will they have an epic equipped for bash if they are using a 2h weapon(which they should for superior dps). Next.
Knights do not get kick. Next.
Using taunt only at the exact moment it is needed is all knights need to do. /thread by greatdane on page 2

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spamming taunt will more than likely increase APM, it doesn't save it. Next.

1. Adding a new line to a macro does not increase APM.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1 hate every 6 seconds is mathematically rounded down to 0 threat. Next.

2. It's +1 hate and an 8.33% chance to taunt at the correct time without needing to think about it. You cannot simply ignore this fact and pretend it will go away.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The majority of knights will not have slam nor will they have an epic equipped for bash if they are using a 2h weapon(which they should for superior dps). Next.
Knights do not get kick. Next.

3. If you are unable to press a single macro with Taunt/Disarm/Beg on it, you probably aren't going to be pressing taunt at all anyway.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using taunt only at the exact moment it is needed is all knights need to do. /thread by greatdane on page 2

4. I already debunked the claim that "strategic taunting is the only viable method for using taunt" here https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=140 . Taunt spamming is viable too.

You have been proven wrong. Please act like an adult and stop shying away from this fact. It's ok to admit you are wrong sometimes.

[Ripqozko]

Every DSM thread, always same, i feel bad for kittens

[Penish]

Another 20 pages of DSM being a retard, congrats

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Penish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another 20 pages of DSM being a retard, congrats

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every DSM thread, always same, i feel bad for kittens

Continuing to raise your trolling post counts does not hurt me or help you. I hope that you will stop this nonsense one day, but at least it is quite obvious to see who the trolls are here.

[Guesty07]

Literally everything he says to other people, every other person reading it thinking that same thing but about him. Glad we're all in agreement - use taunt when you need to, not before. End thread

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Adding a new line to a macro does not increase APM.



2. It's +1 hate and an 8.33% chance to taunt at the correct time without needing to think about it. You cannot simply ignore this fact and pretend it will go away.



3. If you are unable to press a single macro with Taunt/Disarm/Beg on it, you probably aren't going to be pressing taunt at all anyway.



4. I already debunked the claim that "strategic taunting is the only viable method for using taunt" in my previous post. Taunt spamming is viable too.

You have been proven wrong. Please act like an adult and stop shying away from this fact. It's ok to admit you are wrong sometimes.

You have proven nothing, we already knew the correct answer before you got involved.

Knights, do not bother clicking taunt unless you wish to raise your skill in it, or reacquire lost aggro. Ignore the myths/lies/theories.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally everything he says to other people, every other person reading it thinking that same thing but about him. Glad we're all in agreement - use taunt when you need to, not before. End thread

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have proven nothing, we already knew the correct answer before you got involved.

Knights, do not bother clicking taunt unless you wish to raise your skill in it, or reacquire lost aggro. Ignore the myths/lies/theories.

Trolling and simply saying "I am right" without providing any logic, evidence, or reason, is pointless. You are just hurting yourself by posting this kind of nonsense.

For people interested in the truth instead of nonsense and trolling, please see this post:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=140

Strategic taunting and spamming taunt are both viable strategies, and this has yet to be disproven.

[Guesty07]

Speak the truth Crede. Let bad players continue to be bad. We tried