Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[opinion]Global ooc is a terrible idea for peak populations greater than 250. Believe it or not, not everyone wants or needs to hear everything everyone has to say. It empowers idiots and spammers.

I know, I know. It will be suggested to turn off ooc. However, players shouldn't have to disable native, classic features of eq.. to satisfy the needs of others.

Low population, I'd advocate global ooc on for functionality, but still not for "chat".[/opinion]

Most players didnt speak in ooc on RZ sorta draws attention to you..

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will say Bard is a good player; I've seen this. But he hasn't been around with VZTZ for the last 4 years to see all it's failures.

And that's all the hardcore pvpers you say are trying to advocate.

Success.

Pvp failed because Sony keep changing the rules for every carebear that cried to them.RZ ran great with item loot and without GM getting involved.Pvp didnt fail till they starting changing the rules.Plus even you whiners loved it when you got lucky and looted a sweet piece of gear.

[XiakenjaTZ]

Originally Posted by Tamiah2011 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Totally agree looting gear is the way to go...And remimber if you can bag fast enough you dont have to worrie about lossing gear lol

If a strategy is to bag gear in a game it is a bad game design. If there was item loot you can bet your ass there will be 90% naked casters rolling around till the rule gets changed. Ill be one of them.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No YT?
seriously.. no YT is dumb. if some crew is porting around making a name for themselves, well then.. they have! The rest of the server can make the decision as to whether these guys are douches and should be killed, or whether they are white knights, selecting their targets and cleaning out the scum.

You make a name for yourself by killing people, not having people see that you killed someone.

EQ PvP is not for facebook fags. There is no reason for YT broadcasts, save for ego stroking. For that, you can do as I previously suggested, take SS's and make collages like a good girl.

Refute my earlier arguments against it. In any real, logical, sense.

[Envious]

Also, considering Pudge would be on the left side of said YT... I dunno wtf your talking about.

[Envious]

Oh, and for people advocating item loot...

I would personally prefer it, but its going to kill pop, and make the game less enjoyable over all. I highly doubt most of the people advocating it have played on P99, and can honestly say after camping Frenzy for 40hrs with no FBSS drop, that they want item loot.

It would only be an incentive for naked mage / wiz + whatever healer combos running around ganking loot. Thats why it was taken off TZ and VZ fairly early on.

[Civeal]

Item loot seems great,

but if you have exp loss add'd to it, someone could just camp your corpse for a while.

say he saw another good item he wants on the body, you are not gonna loot, and he's gonna kill you again, another exp loss? logging off isn't gonna work if it's his new exp spot.

absolutly no gain from kills should be granted, beside loot, coins, and the joy of the kill, as people will probly exploit the shit out of it.


my 2 cp.

[beentheredonethat]

I used to play on Rallos Zek where there was item loot, and a lot of corpse camping. I would definately advice against item loot/exp loss.

Rallos Zek wasn't a fun server. Melee were forced to run naked because of constant gank by naked casters and therefore were free kills since it was just a matter of root/nuke/nuke. Actually almost everyone ran naked unless they had no drop. Corpse camping was very widespread.

There was another zek where there was simply coin loot, that was all right. I personally would advocate for coin loss at most, or nothing at all.

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by XiakenjaTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a strategy is to bag gear in a game it is a bad game design. If there was item loot you can bet your ass there will be 90% naked casters rolling around till the rule gets changed. Ill be one of them.

yea ok lololol

[Tajin]

Im bias because i played and loved Rallos Zek, so i think yall should make it
Item / coin loot
4-8 level range
no XP loss on pvp death
full classic xp...!