Wizard tank huh. Then why is Emumu inside the dragon in front of you while you have 99% hp and mana.
That censored screenshot (and my power being out) has inspired me to go over the encounter log again.
http://www.project1999.org/p99/?Log&Srv=5&Enc=4156163
Emumu aggros Nagafen in lair at 20:05:34.
50 seconds pass before anybody other than a bard get added to hate list.
4 pets get put on Nagafen. Three die immediately, but likely due to melee damage as they die 1-2 seconds apart. Lilpis FDs.
First cleric (Nerfed) on hate list at 20:06:36.
Hughman added to hate list at 20:07:52, 2 minutes 18 seconds after initial aggro.
Most of the raid force engages around 20:08:10. Every single non-charmed pet with an owner that doesn't die that gets put on Nagafen at this time lives through the entire fight except Lilpis's second pet. Meaning zero (with one possible exception) pets died to AoEs after this time, which is a full 10 minutes before Nagafen's death, including a level 28 wolf pet from a level 40 shaman. (level 39 shaman pets have 900 hitpoints) At this point in time, Nagafen is still likely near full health, as the only possible sources of significant damage were from a 50 SK, a 45 bard, and one mage pet that did less than 765 damage.
Silver's pet dies at 20:08:45. This was the only pet to survive of the first four pets that engaged early during the pull. It did 765 damage.
Hughman dies at 20:08:50. Jibekn dies (or otherwise zones) 8 seconds later. Trotiste's pet either dies or breaks charm 11 seconds after Jibekn dies. Trotiste dies 6 seconds after his pet disengages Nagafen.
Second cleric (Fallen) on hate list at 20:09:03; two and a half minutes after Nerfed.
At 20:10:15, Lilpis's pet dies. From that point on, no entity is removed from Nagafen's hate list. Nagafen dies a full 8 minutes later.
Lovely added to hate list at 20:10:33-- 5 minutes after Emumu aggros Nagafen. He does all of 1589 damage the entire fight.
The last four players added to the hate list are 3 clerics and a resurrected Hughman. Face at 20:11:35, Milkshake at 20:13:40, and Reika one minute before Nagafen dies at 20:17:10.
Nagafen dies at 20:18:09. Three people die/gate: Hughman, Jibekn, and Troriste. They die early in the fight, and likely from dragon melee and a charm break.
The raid included a 32 warrior, a 36 warrior, and a 34 rogue-- who did not have a bard, were engaged for 8-10 minutes, and didn't die. Silver uses a water pet instead of a fire immune pet. The only bard chooses to melee instead of use a drum. Half the raid is below level 45.
The only entities to do more than 2k damage:
Code:
Gurrilla's Pet (SumFireR11) (591)[1007] 598 Length 6129 Damage
Jibekn's Pet (SumFireR11) (591)[1041] 466 Length 6124 Damage
Silver's Pet (SumWaterR12) (609)[1040] 492 Length 6104 Damage
Emumu (536)[1019] 755 Length 5162 Damage
Nacho's Pet (SpiritWolf234) (548)[1043] 431 Length 3323 Damage
Xzeal (2022)[1016] 511 Length 3180 Damage
Skelly (2623)[1004] 720 Length 3078 Damage
Troriste's Pet (sonic_bat) (32016)[960] 64 Length 2435 Damage
Hughman (115)[1045] 271 Length 2250 Damage
Most interesting is the hate done by every healer on that raid:
Code:
Troriste 50 Druid 0 Damage 3385 Hate
Bacon 40 Shaman 946 Damage 2127 Hate
Nacho 50 Shaman 0 Damage 1838 Hate
Nerfed 50 Cleric 0 Damage 1682 Hate
Face 33 Cleric 0 Damage 349 Hate
Fallen 50 Cleric 0 Damage 332 Hate
Ganka 45 Druid 0 Damage 199 Hate
Reika 50 Cleric 52 Damage 204 Hate
Milkshake 44 Cleric 0 Damage 49 Hate
As you can see, most healers have very little hate. Bacon was clearly nuking, (or meleeing) not healing. Troriste was only in the fight for 70 seconds and engaged with most of the raid at 20:07:55. He also had a charmed pet, which means he wasn't going to blow all his mana healing, if any at all. 3385 hate in 70 seconds indicates he was nuking and getting resisted, as heals do not generate anywhere near that much hate, and the only ice nuke druids have also has a fire debuff component, which means it is probably an all-or-nothing spell.
That leaves two healers with any significant amounts of healing done: Nerfed and Nacho. Nacho had enough mana to spare to summon a pet mid-battle. Amusingly Reika apparently found the time to melee Nagafen. Quite clearly there was NO CH ROT going on-- not even on the main tank.
For reference, on a more recent Nag kill with a similar fight duration, clerics all had a uniform 4k+ hate.
Everything indicates the dragon was not AoEing, including Lovely's screenshot. Notice everyone is spread out instead of minimizing the distance required to duck behind a corner to avoid AoEs. Lovely is nowhere near a corner, goofing off by meleeing Nagafen with full health. 'Accidental' or not, Nagafen clearly bugged out very early in the fight. Hell, Nagafen probably wasn't even meleeing some of the time with that lack of healing. Can one cleric and one shaman (who summons a pet mid-fight) keep a SK up for 10+ minutes against Nagafen's melee?
The difference between Holocaust and Nihilum is that Holocaust exploited after two months of GM inaction, after Nihilum had been getting away with so much for so long, with screenshots and logs showing their crimes. Holocaust admits wrong doing while Nihilum still lies, blacks out screenshots, and refuses to submit logs. Nihilum played the GMs for suckers by harassing them to monitor Holocaust's raids to eliminate the competition they fail to kill in PvP when they themselves were guilty of the same crime.
01-20-2012, 12:28 AM
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