Game Mechanics: Mellee miss rate seems excessively high.

[President]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was your first damn post in the thread.. You basically told me to STFU and quit whining because im obviously doing it wrong and im imagining everything... Yet I insulted your intelligence first? Dude, you insult your own intelligence by breathing...

LOL yep guess it was. Point still stands. I also notice you edited out the QQ fest that was your initial post. Not to mention, my first post was in response to one one of your other posts in this thread that was another 'imma quit' qq fest.

[Yoite]

meep

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by Yoite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy JESUS dont turn the bug forum into a flame fest you have multiple threads and you're raising hell in each one

Wasnt my intention. I asked a legit question in the other one, and yet these guys followed me there and flamed because they've apparently got nothing better to do. Quite honestly, I wish there was a way to just block em from the thread and call it a day.

[President]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasnt my intention. I asked a legit question in the other one, and yet these guys followed me there and flamed because they've apparently got nothing better to do. Quite honestly, I wish there was a way to just block em from the thread and call it a day.

No one flamed you in the other thread aside from me finding it interesting that you constantly insult my intelligence but then use one of my posts and call it fact.

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one flamed you in the other thread aside from me finding it interesting that you constantly insult my intelligence but then use one of my posts and call it fact.

If you cant figgure out why I'd do such a thing, then I'll explain it, if you still dont get it, dont bother to respond..

I used your "facts" from your level 19-20 days because they came out of YOUR personal experience, and YOU are the one that stated that it happened. EQ was not meant to have huge "humps" in skill progression, it was a slow steady progression game. I used your "facts" because in order to dispute them, you would have to say you were wrong, which you did not do. Also, I never called them "facts", you did. What I said was that your post helped to validate and prove my point. That there IS an issue with melee skills.

As far as who insulted who first? Read the damn posts. Its pretty obvious you started it. Hell, you even went out of your way to kill a sand giant and post pics in the thread to show that you DIDNT miss once which realistically, if the system was correct, you should have, ATLEAST once. At every turn, you continue to offer points which reinforce the thought that there still IS an issue with melee, and then turn around and deny its an issue.. You then insult me and tell me im wrong and expect me not to respond after you went out of your way to help prove me right? How does that NOT say anything about your intelligence?

You know what President? Fuck it, you win, enjoy ownership of the thread. I'll just grind off to 21 where the misses mysteriously vanish or give a druid some plat for some powerleveling, and let everyone else deal with the massive miss rate. You arent worth arguing with.

[Desert]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you cant figgure out why I'd do such a thing, then I'll explain it, if you still dont get it, dont bother to respond..

I used your "facts" from your level 19-20 days because they came out of YOUR personal experience, and YOU are the one that stated that it happened. EQ was not meant to have huge "humps" in skill progression, it was a slow steady progression game. I used your "facts" because in order to dispute them, you would have to say you were wrong, which you did not do. Also, I never called them "facts", you did. What I said was that your post helped to validate and prove my point. That there IS an issue with melee skills.

As far as who insulted who first? Read the damn posts. Its pretty obvious you started it. Hell, you even went out of your way to kill a sand giant and post pics in the thread to show that you DIDNT miss once which realistically, if the system was correct, you should have, ATLEAST once. At every turn, you continue to offer points which reinforce the thought that there still IS an issue with melee, and then turn around and deny its an issue.. You then insult me and tell me im wrong and expect me not to respond after you went out of your way to help prove me right? How does that NOT say anything about your intelligence?

You know what President? Fuck it, you win, enjoy ownership of the thread. I'll just grind off to 21 where the misses mysteriously vanish or give a druid some plat for some powerleveling, and let everyone else deal with the massive miss rate. You arent worth arguing with.

Prolly the best idea you're going to have all year bro, do it imo.

[Ruinous]

Honestly, do ya'll have nothing better to do than bitch about us "complaining" about problems in the game? News flash: emulated servers thrive upon and become better because of user feedback.

We gave legitimate concerns. You gave a "stop QQing" speech. Stop wasting thread space, stop feeding your post count, and gtfo of this bug posting. This isn't a debate forum and you haven't made any legitimate counter-points to the original posting regardless.

You cry for proof, the OP gave screenshots. That wasn't good enough because you're not satisfied unless you're crying to tell us stop crying. Go fucking figure. Irony at its finest.

I enjoy this server, but holy christ. One of the reasons EQ was so cool back in the day was a mature player base. Grow a pair and stop squabbling over this. This is a matter for the devs to review and decide upon, not a self-righteous forum troll that gets his jollies off by trying to shoot down the opinions of others. Between how sickening global OOC is and how you people take shots at eachother on this thread, I'd think we were all playing with a bunch of WoW kiddies.

[girth]

Originally Posted by Ruinous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

News flash: emulated servers thrive upon and become better because of USEFUL user feedback.

fixed.

Melee has come a LOOOOOOOOOOONG way on Project 1999, serious work/effort was put into it, and unless you(OP) have some kind of statistical evidence, you may as well just pay that druid for the PL, because you're trying to solo on the worst soloing class in the game. And you're whining on here that you cannot solo on the worst soloing class in the game and because of that fact, you believe melee is borked? You didn't expect to catch shit for that? Seriously?

[Desert]

Originally Posted by girth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fixed.

Melee has come a LOOOOOOOOOOONG way on Project 1999, serious work/effort was put into it, and unless you(OP) have some kind of statistical evidence, you may as well just pay that druid for the PL, because you're trying to solo on the worst soloing class in the game. And you're whining on here that you cannot solo on the worst soloing class in the game and because of that fact, you believe melee is borked? You didn't expect to catch shit for that? Seriously?

^ This

[girth]

Just for shits and giggles I went outside Guk and let one of the entrance guards beat on me for 10 minutes, I never once moved after walking up to him and hitting Taunt once. I had no buffs on.

level 37 ogre sk vs green con guk entrance guard
1430 hp
700 ac
185 defense
125 dodge
175 parry
175 riposte

eqlog_Bootleg_project1999.txt

I found it interesting that I only got 0 dodges, 0 ripostes and 1 parry. Is it because the npc miss check comes before those so they barely even have a chance to happen?