Lies and Delusional concepts

[heartbrand]

I've thought about what happened back during the Nagafen fiasco, and I've come to the conclusion that it ultimately made no difference for a variety of reasons. The main two points made about what was, still in my mind pretty terribly botched, is that it hindered Holocaust's ability to recruit during the ban and the gear advantage became insurmountable.

1) The two week suspension stopped Holocaust's momentum and prevented them from recruiting during this time.

Holocaust had no leadership, no formal recruitment. You couldn't apply to Holocaust because they didn't recruit. So this claim is false. It wouldn't have mattered had there been no suspension, holocaust wasn't recruiting.

2) The gear advantage was insurmountable.

Really? Two weeks of bladestoppers was too much, on a server pre-damage nerf where wizards were one shotting people? Lol.

The reality is Holocaust was always destined to fail. They failed to bring over the majority of their core to red99 from the get go, the class distribution was awful, and there was no leadership or recruitment. But beyond all of that, as they still were winning the pvp, it was a guild founded upon grief. Do you think had holocaust not been suspended for two weeks they'd still be here playing? Of course not. Nihilum was able to recruit because it's a guild formed to play EverQuest. The majority of the members came here to experience classic EQ without having to wait in a line to do so. When holocaust would win a pvp battle or grief, they would log off and simply kill the dragon later. They were here for EverQuest. Holocaust couldn't compete against that. The better recruiting message was come join us to raid and get loot, not hey we don't recruit you're a faggot n****r and we're going to corpse camp you and lol about it. This is why all of uprising ended up joining nihilum rather than ally with holocaust even for one raid. They were never going to "win" this server.

Does this mean the way it was handled was ok? No, Rogean admitted it was done poorly, but let's not kid ourselves as though this changed forever the destiny of this server. Had nihilum also been suspended, they would've mostly all came back. Holocaust for the most part didn't. Even when holocaust had uncontested opportunities at Vox, what happened? Lady Vox at the zone line of permafrost camping all of their corpses. It wasn't going to happen for them folks. It doesn't mean there weren't some fun and lol worthy moments in holocaust, but on this server, it just wasn't meant to be for Holocaust, despite the Nagafen fiasco.

As to all the other so-called GM Favoritism, really? Killjoy, nihilum member, banned. Fallen, banned. Sektor, banned. Bahamut rage deleted never restored. Bruuce, banned. Shocker ate a suspension while in nihilum, I think beovvulf did as well though not sure.There's plenty more but I can't recall them all off the top of my head. Plenty of people were banned for cheating/boxing.

If anything, not enough people are banned for boxing nowadays as opposed to when Amelinda was here. She didn't go about things the best of ways, hehehehe, but at least people were a bit scared to box back then and tried to hide it. Now people just openly do it with no remorse or fear.

Nihilum hardly has Rogean's ear, he ended up forcing them to delete loots from several dragon kills that the whole wall issue was never even used for. If there was a secret bat phone to Rogean, the AE dispel issue would've been fixed five months ago. The only bat phone Rogean has is a lightsaber pals, and he isn't wielding it over here on red99, despite what your guild tag may or may not be.

So while people can continue to cry and complain and bitch and moan, know that GM favoritism has nothing to do with why Nihilum is on top of this server. They are on top because of excellent leadership by Nizzar who understands classic EQ content, and because the members are here to play EverQuest and progress.

[Massive Marc]

1) The two week suspension stopped Holocaust's momentum and prevented them from recruiting during this time.

Holocaust had no leadership, no formal recruitment. You couldn't apply to Holocaust because they didn't recruit. So this claim is false. It wouldn't have mattered had there been no suspension, holocaust wasn't recruiting.

I'm not sure about all the rest of the crap you came up with, but I know for sure you could apply to Holocaust. I did, because I wanted to play with Knuckles at the time.

Please stand corrected.

[heartbrand]

As with many absolute statements, there are always exceptions, but that doesn't change the main point, which was that overall recruitment / leadership was not something that was a focal point in Holocaust. I'm glad you claim to be the exception, but the other fifteen + posters on the boards have said in the past they tried to apply with no response.

[heartbrand]

Also, I stuck with Holocaust till the very end on this server, I begged for recruitment to take place, it took months before Gongshow finally became de facto leader and was willing to open up recruitment, before that there was no process.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've thought about what happened back during the Nagafen fiasco, and I've come to the conclusion that it ultimately made no difference for a variety of reasons. The main two points made about what was, still in my mind pretty terribly botched, is that it hindered Holocaust's ability to recruit during the ban and the gear advantage became insurmountable.

1) The two week suspension stopped Holocaust's momentum and prevented them from recruiting during this time.

Holocaust had no leadership, no formal recruitment. You couldn't apply to Holocaust because they didn't recruit. So this claim is false. It wouldn't have mattered had there been no suspension, holocaust wasn't recruiting.

2) The gear advantage was insurmountable.

Really? Two weeks of bladestoppers was too much, on a server pre-damage nerf where wizards were one shotting people? Lol.

The reality is Holocaust was always destined to fail. They failed to bring over the majority of their core to red99 from the get go, the class distribution was awful, and there was no leadership or recruitment. But beyond all of that, as they still were winning the pvp, it was a guild founded upon grief. Do you think had holocaust not been suspended for two weeks they'd still be here playing? Of course not. Nihilum was able to recruit because it's a guild formed to play EverQuest. The majority of the members came here to experience classic EQ without having to wait in a line to do so. When holocaust would win a pvp battle or grief, they would log off and simply kill the dragon later. They were here for EverQuest. Holocaust couldn't compete against that. The better recruiting message was come join us to raid and get loot, not hey we don't recruit you're a faggot n****r and we're going to corpse camp you and lol about it. This is why all of uprising ended up joining nihilum rather than ally with holocaust even for one raid. They were never going to "win" this server.

Does this mean the way it was handled was ok? No, Rogean admitted it was done poorly, but let's not kid ourselves as though this changed forever the destiny of this server. Had nihilum also been suspended, they would've mostly all came back. Holocaust for the most part didn't. Even when holocaust had uncontested opportunities at Vox, what happened? Lady Vox at the zone line of permafrost camping all of their corpses. It wasn't going to happen for them folks. It doesn't mean there weren't some fun and lol worthy moments in holocaust, but on this server, it just wasn't meant to be for Holocaust, despite the Nagafen fiasco.

As to all the other so-called GM Favoritism, really? Killjoy, nihilum member, banned. Fallen, banned. Sektor, banned. Bahamut rage deleted never restored. Bruuce, banned. Shocker ate a suspension while in nihilum, I think beovvulf did as well though not sure.There's plenty more but I can't recall them all off the top of my head. Plenty of people were banned for cheating/boxing.

If anything, not enough people are banned for boxing nowadays as opposed to when Amelinda was here. She didn't go about things the best of ways, hehehehe, but at least people were a bit scared to box back then and tried to hide it. Now people just openly do it with no remorse or fear.

Nihilum hardly has Rogean's ear, he ended up forcing them to delete loots from several dragon kills that the whole wall issue was never even used for. If there was a secret bat phone to Rogean, the AE dispel issue would've been fixed five months ago. The only bat phone Rogean has is a lightsaber pals, and he isn't wielding it over here on red99, despite what your guild tag may or may not be.

So while people can continue to cry and complain and bitch and moan, know that GM favoritism has nothing to do with why Nihilum is on top of this server. They are on top because of excellent leadership by Nizzar who understands classic EQ content, and because the members are here to play EverQuest and progress.

I don't think many believe Holocaust was going to save the server if it wasn't banned. There are just a couple trolls that are making fun of the server and you bite on it.

People do quit when they see people not treated equally or cheating going on. As you have stated before Nihilum doesn't even have the same people as before. People at one time or another have been treated better by the GMs here.

Other than that there is boxing and cheating going on all the time. Some get banned and some get away with it. Either way just knowing that it is going on has made a lot of people quit. The only ones that play this game hardcore like yourself are those that want to do PVE and don't mind a low population server. Most people need the high population server to enjoy it. Nihilum will always have a core of members that will want to play, even if the numbers get down to 6 players and can only fill one group.

[RoguePhantom]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I stuck with Holocaust till the very end on this server, I begged for recruitment to take place, it took months before Gongshow finally became de facto leader and was willing to open up recruitment, before that there was no process.

The clusterfuck that was the GM Bannings in the beginning only hastened most of the original Holocaust into never looking back.

The server was screwed from the start when FattyLinda was trading ignorance for people talking dirty to her. (Hi Kungen exploiting red wands with fatty watching) How some people got banned/suspended/reported by her for doing the same things others were shows that not one GM cared. Then banning people for using the Darkelf NPC that can clear the entire zone... (There still is a mob that can do this in another zone that is actively used to farm)

I love how you just pick and chose facts to believe and report on so in your eyes it makes you look less of a moron. But everyone knows you are a fucking joke.

Keep getting those Pixels bro. That aint gonna stop your dick from rotting off after letting Nizarr run it over with his wheelchair multiple times so you could get that Nihilum tag.

[heartbrand]

Bunch of mad hyperbole, zero facts presented. Par for the course here. Also lol @ comparing recharging of items, something that was asked for by the playerbase, was not an exploit, and was changed later on, to that NPC. Who was banned for charming this mob? Do you have names? Logs? Screenshots? Anything? I love how you just make conclusory statements with no facts or backup to make yourself look less of a moron. =)

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bunch of mad hyperbole, zero facts presented. Par for the course here. Also lol @ comparing recharging of items, something that was asked for by the playerbase, was not an exploit, and was changed later on, to that NPC. Who was banned for charming this mob? Do you have names? Logs? Screenshots? Anything? I love how you just make conclusory statements with no facts or backup to make yourself look less of a moron. =)

White knight of P1999!

I have no clue what your denial is trying to protect but give it up. People aren't going to dig through for the evidence every time you deny bullshit. It happens in a thread about once a day. People just posted screenshots of you with platlord like a week ago. Fuck off.

[Massive Marc]

What mob can still be charmed ? not that I don't believe you, but it should probably be put in the bugs section. You guys want a legit server, start there.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

White knight of P1999!

I have no clue what your denial is trying to protect but give it up. People aren't going to dig through for the evidence every time you deny bullshit. It happens in a thread about once a day. People just posted screenshots of you with platlord like a week ago. Fuck off.

LOL. Cool story bro, I come from American, innocent until proven guilty. You can't just yell "fraud" or "cheat" and then put someone in jail until they prove they have in fact not committed a crime. I get that's how ForumQuest works, throw a bunch of random accusations @ the wall and see what sticks, if that fails bust out the mspaint for some photoshop. But for those of us that are semi-intelligent and possess a rare skill known as logic, those tactics aren't very effective or convincing.