2020 Election MEGAthread

[Castle2.0]

Who are the people that thought Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation / fake?

Preztelboy and who else? Wow.

I only reserved one crow for Preztelboy to eat, Ozzie Ozbourne style. I just want to know if I need to order more.

P.S. +1 BlackBellamysMatter for Thomes Sowell tweet

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I want to be 100% clear.

This has to do with conservativism, and supporting trump is less conservative than being a democrat.

He is about as "shake it up and change the way we do things" as I have seen since Bernie Sanders.

[Castle2.0]

Sowell is more libertarian. Great thinker. Trump himself is not your typical conservative, but he is fulfilling the conservative agenda more than almost any 'conservative' president in modern history.

I'm not voting for Trump because I like him. I'm not looking for a guy to go grab a beer with. I am looking for a guy to get the job done.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sowell is more libertarian. Trump himself is not your typical conservative, but he is fulfilling the conservative agenda more than almost any 'conservative' president in modern history.

If libertarianism is burn everything and ignore anyone who tells you otherwise then sure.

You seem to me more like an anarchist than a libertarian.

Your version of libertarianism is high patriot acts and anti science driving federal mandates.

Mine is the president stops writing executive orders.

[Castle2.0]

Nope, I would say, politically, I am a mix conservative/libertarian.

I wonder if Mr.Priss is gonna run away from the Hunter laptop story like he ran away from my simple COVID question, lol.

Looking forward to it. Maybe he'll chime in now one last time before the deeper, darker stuff off that laptop drops, like the pedo stuff, yuck. I mean, it's already starting to leak out, but someone who only watches CNN will be on a 1-week delay.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, I would say, politically, I am a mix conservative/libertarian.

So you're a conservative that supports the biggest inflation of our national debt in history, and a libertarian who thinks a president writing the highest number of executive orders in history (based on time in office), is small goverment?

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to me more like an anarchist than a libertarian.

The two are cut from the same cloth. In much common usage "libertarian" is simply a polite word for anarchist. It stems from the era where openly calling yourself an anarchist would get you the old-timey equivalent of deplatformed. Some self-described libertarians regard themselves as more minarchists than anarchists in that they have enough sense to accept that some governance is necessary.

Danth

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two are cut from the same cloth. In much common usage "libertarian" is simply a polite word for anarchist. It stems from the era where openly calling yourself an anarchist would get you the old-timey equivalent of deplatformed. Some self-described libertarians regard themselves as more minarchists than anarchists in that they have enough sense to accept that some governance is necessary.

Danth

A lot of libertarians I meet believe in the bill of rights, and they kind of stop there. So would every single anarchist.

But I saw that amazing rant by Anton Scalia, where he was like, "every banana republic in the world has a bill of rights, what sets America apart is our judicial, executive, and legislative branches being separate and that is protected in the constitution."

The, "gridlock of big goverment" is what the founding fathers wanted, the bill of rights wasn't necessary because of this, but it was added to appease the federalists: It is the constitution that would "protect the bill of rights" and that's what sets us apart. (And it's why the "living document" aspect works too.)

He quoted the soviet unions bill of rights, and it was ours, + an anti corruption right, and that was the country that made the KGB lol... Because they didnt have the 3 branches of goverment the way we do and a constitution that protects them.

So I believe you're right, but, I disagree that they have enough sense to accept that some governance is necessary, I would argue, most think that that governance comes from the bill of rights simply existing and the rest of our goverment just follows it, and that we should get rid of the senators and legislative beurocracy, that is "big goverment", that turns out is the only reason we follow the bill of rights in the first place.

I think a true libertarian/conservative, likes big goverment, because it means no changes. An an anarchist says "get off my property its mine! Says so in the bill of rights!"

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Idk if you watch those I dont talk to cops videos on youtube, but those are always, libertarians.

[Castle2.0]

So you're a conservative that supports the biggest inflation of our national debt in history, and a libertarian who thinks a president writing the highest number of executive orders in history (based on time in office), is small goverment?

Nope.

I don't agree with Trump on some things. These would be 2 of them. Executive order overreach. Every executive has done this and it gets worse with each new president. It's a problem. I don't think the means justify the ends - but I do appreciate the policy ends.

I also supported Ron Paul's idea to audit the fed and I would have preferred his son Rand Paul as the nominee instead of Trump in 2016. I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton in 2016.

Seeing how Trump has performed in the past 3 years, he has my vote this go.

[Danth]

I might have worded my post badly: A "minarchist" believes some (albeit limited) active governance is necessary. That is the distinguishing characteristic between such a person and a true anarchist/libertarian.