the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I asked a few hours ago, why does every argument by you Fox News addicts always lead to the same talking points about BLM?

Category: peaceful protests?

Let’s change the subject to your vaccination status [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly don't know what you're asking? Yes, I already agreed that the US is more liberal with incarceration and punitive justice than other countries. Yep, I totally agree.

I just don't think that system is being applied unequally in any meaningful, broad or systemic way, which is always the claim.

Also, when you sarcastically say "PUHLEEEEEEEZE help me understand" about anything it just makes you look like you actually don't understand and are insecure about it.

That's good, because I meant it, I don't understand anything, I'm just a brain damaged irony-poisoned drunk. You're the statistics SME, glad we got that sorted out. I can tell from your detailed analysis in the post I am responding to. I don't know how to fly a helicopter but I have played a lot of video games with helicopters in them.

As you just proved, the US is more liberal with incarceration and punitive with justice but it is not applied unequally in any meaningful, broad or systemic way. Needle threaded successfully.

I just hope you send this breakthrough statistical analysis to Matt Walsh or, better yet, someone even more famous that more people who do criminal justice reform stuff listen to

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's good, because I meant it, I don't understand anything, I'm just a brain damaged irony-poisoned drunk. You're the statistics SME, glad we got that sorted out. I can tell from your detailed analysis in the post I am responding to. I don't know how to fly a helicopter but I have played a lot of video games with helicopters in them.

As you just proved, the US is more liberal with incarceration and punitive with justice but it is not applied unequally in any meaningful, broad or systemic way. Needle threaded successfully.

I just hope you send this breakthrough statistical analysis to Matt Walsh or, better yet, someone even more famous that more people who do criminal justice reform stuff listen to

Can’t speak for incarceration rates, but I’ve heard numerous UK cops mention that they usually don’t feel the same level of concern for their own safety as American cops when making an arrest because they know there is a much less chance they will be shot due to 10x less guns

This is not meant to be a pro gun control argument but just explaining the differences in approach, somewhat. Doesn’t mean that removing all guns is a fix because it’s not as easy as making all guns disappear and that has a ripple effect of its own

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I'm sorry but poverty and class is not a sufficient explanation. Poor black people still committ more violent crime per capita than poor white people. I'll leave it up to you to explain to me why I'm racist for acknowledging reality.

You're the one leaving them behind when you just tap out of the conversation with "Uhhhhh it's POVERTY". Nope, sorry, there are a lot of grieving black mothers out there who are not gonna be super satisfied with that explanation. It's culture, it's culture, it's culture.

Really you are going to sit there and tell me black crime per capital is worse than organized crime committed by Italian organized crime back in the day. We already know what organized crime looks like from the cartel; and those fleeing that.

And yeah you are a racist if you can't see that poverty drives people to crime.

"It ain't a secret, don't conceal the fact
The penitentiary's packed and it's filled with blacks
But some things will never change (Never Change)
Try to show another way, but you stayin' in the dope game (Ooh)
Now tell me, what's a mother to do?
Bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you (Yeah)
You gotta operate the easy way
"I made a G today, " but you made it in a sleazy way
Sellin' crack to the kids (Oh-oh), "I gotta get paid" (Oh)
Well hey, well that's the way it is"

[robayon]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can’t speak for incarceration rates, but I’ve heard numerous UK cops mention that they usually don’t feel the same level of concern for their own safety as American cops when making an arrest because they know there is a much less chance they will be shot due to 10x less guns

This is not meant to be a pro gun control argument but just explaining the differences in approach, somewhat. Doesn’t mean that removing all guns is a fix because it’s not as easy as making all guns disappear and that has a ripple effect of its own

Fun anecdote: I was in London the day that this happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_London_Bridge_attack

My wife/then-gf and I were exiting the Tower of London at the time, and we heard one of the Beefeaters saying something to one of the other guards like "I'm glad they killed that fucker" or something like that, it was surprising... not the guys in the formation thing marching around, they don't talk or aren't supposed to... like one of the gate guards in the costume thing. Uniform. I don't know.

I can buy it though. I imagine your average brit-cop is a bit better with their fists than the average American cop, or used to knife attacks etc. Just a guess. Every time I've been to Europe/UK I've seen at least one brawl in the street, only seen a handful in the USA all my years here. Admittedly I've been in the touristy, high density spots when there so maybe that skews it a bit.

To be clear, I support gun ownership and own some myself. Liberals do not seem to understand power. I do not have a complete answer to this question either, like sometimes I want an AR15 but I also own an eight foot long spear... and then other times I look at these things as obvious signs of larger societal mental problems when there's yet another school shooter in the news having killed a bunch of kids. Using whatever melee or ranged weapon. We could outlaw AR15s or 'assault weapons' or whatever but then just some motherfucker blows up a school with a homemade fertilizer bomb or smashes people with bricks or something.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really you are going to sit there and tell me black crime per capital is worse than organized crime committed by Italian organized crime back in the day. We already know what organized crime looks like from the cartel; and those fleeing that.

And yeah you are a racist if you can't see that poverty drives people to crime.

"It ain't a secret, don't conceal the fact
The penitentiary's packed and it's filled with blacks
But some things will never change (Never Change)
Try to show another way, but you stayin' in the dope game (Ooh)
Now tell me, what's a mother to do?
Bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you (Yeah)
You gotta operate the easy way
"I made a G today, " but you made it in a sleazy way
Sellin' crack to the kids (Oh-oh), "I gotta get paid" (Oh)
Well hey, well that's the way it is"

Bullshit.

Humans will always try to gain an edge over other humans, regardless of where they stand in life or the class they are born to.

The broke man of any race will steal to feed himself if he must, the rich man of any race will steal because he wants more money, that's why rich people are rich, their drive is money at any cost, and they break the laws every day whilst doing so. That system is not systemically racist, it is designed to systemically protect the wealthy.

Poverty driving people to crime isn't a racial issue, its an economical issue.

To have said otherwise, illustrates exactly the type of disconnect between Dem leadership and their constituents. This is what you people actually think of black folks, that poverty will make them criminals looking for an easy way in life, thats the kind of voter base you intend to cultivate.

You're a racist.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The broke man of any race will steal to feed himself if he must

Which is weird because not only does food stamps exist for a reason, we continue to spend more and more on it every year

The broke man and the rich man sometimes steal because they want something that they probably don’t need

[Horza]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Category: peaceful protests?

Let’s change the subject to your vaccination status [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BLM! BLM! George Soros! BLM! See, I can speak Fox News as well.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BLM! BLM! George Soros! BLM! See, I can speak Fox News as well.

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[Botten]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit.

Humans will always try to gain an edge over other humans, regardless of where they stand in life or the class they are born to.

Ok tyrant. None of that humane thing for you. Should we persecute them too. I hear you like that too.

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The broke man of any race will steal to feed himself if he must, the rich man of any race will steal because he wants more money, that's why rich people are rich, their drive is money at any cost, and they break the laws every day whilst doing so.

Or and hear me out they get an opportunity, an education and helped in the right direction to make something of themselves. Like you know a government program provides.

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poverty driving people to crime isn't a racial issue, its an economical issue.

You honestly believe all humans want to commit crime and do it when they live in bliss? Man those suburbs are teaming with crime.

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To have said otherwise, illustrates exactly the type of disconnect between Dem leadership and their constituents.

No it just shows how brainwashed you have become by foxnews, Facebook feeds and kinfolk upbringing.

Originally Posted by Trexller

This is what you people actually think of black folks, that poverty will make them criminals looking for an easy way in life, thats the kind of voter base you intend to cultivate.

Right, because the democrats are advocates for programs that help people get out of poverty while Republicans see them as a waste of their money they earned in the form of Taxes on them

Trexller I guess you have now shown you are racist and a raging antisemitic. You small pitiful brainwashed Texan.