The idea that will save the server(for u fecal)

[heartbrand]

It takes you guys like four hours just to clear to CT, and you're talking about sniping raid targets? ROFLCOPTR. Also, with variance and the new tracking nerf, good luck knowing if Innoruuk is up in Hate without clearing Hate every fucking day. Good luck tracking Faydedar and Talendor and Severilous. I'd love to be the guy running in TD all day to see if Fay has popped yet with the 5 inch long Druid track. You make it sound as tho it's as easy as, "ooo I saw talendor up" and within 5 minutes you've "sniped" the target. You now have to get 20+ people online in Skyfire setup and buffed, have to pull Talendor to the spot, etc. For <Classic> unless somehow things have just dramatically improved in the last 2 hours, we're talking an hour MINIMUM to pull that off. And this is for a guild that supposedly can't even get TWO groups online at the same time, and now they're gonna get 20+ online, buffed and at the location within 10 minutes and down the mob before Nihilum can react? LOL? Your best case scenario with Variance is like 1x VS every five months if it pops around 430am EST, and even then I've seen our professional EQ player crew and I'm doubtful. However, with static spawns, you get the chance to map out a strategy. You know VS pops @ X and that there's mob overlap, you can instead head to the mob we're not doing and set up, get prepared and beat us to it. You can hold the Seb zone line and snipe us as we can come up, or camp the rings. You have shots at multiple targets even sweeping the day like Kringe has done in the past, and much PVP would be had.

tl;dr Variance best case scenario = 1x VS every half a year with zero pvp
Classic scenario = Possible sweeps of spawns every week with tons of pvp

[Malevz]

I played Vallon from open til GoD. Klant, weren't you a bard on vallon, think we may have been guilded together? We have Rythm too, and a few other ex-Defiant, the guy who played Keaki, Mendan, can't remember who he played. We even have Samuell, who was my guild leader on Sullon when I played there for a while, course he was a mage then.

So to answer your question nope, never played on a pvp server.

If you can't stop 22 people at VS, at the zone in, hell if you can't stop that with one solid group, you don't need GM help, you need something easier.

[klant]

honestly bro, I would rather have variance just to make you fat fucks work harder, and waste more of your time on this game. could you imagine how dedicated you guys would have to be. you will have to decide between real life and norrath life
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[RoguePhantom]

Ok... Heartbrand, try to follow this simple statement.

Just because Nihi may still have every raid mob on lockdown after Variance, does NOT mean its a bad thing for the server.

There, that is it.

Variance adds the POSSIBILITY for shit to happen differently. Trying to PvP 60 VP geared toons when the spawn is KNOWN... will NEVER work for the lower geared, numbered and leveled people. The BEST that everyone can hope is to delay the raid kill.

Variance adds the POSSIBILITY for stuff to change and be ninja'd. No one wants handouts, or shit to be given to them. Just the ability to compete. Find a VS/Serv/Gore/WHATEVER spawn at 10AM on a random day, get people there and only have to fight with 6 Nihi instead of the 40 that kill it every Sunday.

There is a reason that every MMO that does NOT do instanced raids, has variable spawn times on all their stuff. Because they DON'T want to have what is happening on Red/Blue 99 to happen to their game.

[klant]

klant was a rog in defiant. and all those names you listed were non factors in defiant/zek. none of them pvp'd, and non were near the top of the pvp leader boards.

[magician]

Originally Posted by klant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

klant was a rog in defiant. and all those names you listed were non factors in defiant/zek. none of them pvp'd, and non were near the top of the pvp leader boards.

the way you type on 14 year old elf simulation boards leads me to believe that you are in fact also a fat man playing video games

[Malevz]

Vallon had PvP leaderboards? All that time I spent wandering around stabbing people and I never knew. Klant never did anything memorable, other than the whining and ragelogging. Glad to see things haven't changed.

Back to the subject at hand though... if you're going to whine for variance so you can kill mobs at 4am when Nihilum is asleep, why not just ask for them to give you loots? I mean you don't want competition you just want the pixels, might as well skip having them make it easier and just ask for what you want.

If it helps I'll give you a hint, if you see 22 at VS dispel the tank, it's all you need to do. Once VS starts running wild one group should have no problem cleaning up the other 21 people. Let me know if you hardcore pvpers need any other hints or helpful tips.

[RoguePhantom]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vallon had PvP leaderboards? All that time I spent wandering around stabbing people and I never knew. Klant never did anything memorable, other than the whining and ragelogging. Glad to see things haven't changed.

Back to the subject at hand though... if you're going to whine for variance so you can kill mobs at 4am when Nihilum is asleep, why not just ask for them to give you loots? I mean you don't want competition you just want the pixels, might as well skip having them make it easier and just ask for what you want.

If it helps I'll give you a hint, if you see 22 at VS dispel the tank, it's all you need to do. Once VS starts running wild one group should have no problem cleaning up the other 21 people. Let me know if you hardcore pvpers need any other hints or helpful tips.

And you are whining about not wanting to log in more than 1 day a week to steamroll through every raid mob...

All everyone is asking for is the possibility of not not letting people time the spawn of every mob and knowing exactly when, where, why, how and how many will spawn.

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by RoguePhantom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All everyone is asking for is the possibility of not not letting people time the spawn of every mob and knowing exactly when, where, why, how and how many will spawn.

What people are asking for is mobs on times where they won't have competition, because they don't want to pvp for them. Perhaps instead of variance we could make it easier on everyone and just have a calendar on the website? You know X guild gets trak one week, then Y guild gets it the next?

I had a friend that played on... prexus... and worked for them I suppose. They didn't need to pvp.

[klant]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What people are asking for is mobs on times where they won't have competition, because they don't want to pvp for them.

No man, we love competition. Just because you guys have a rough time 30v18 doesn't make it competition. Just saying if something did happen to spawn at 4am, the numbers would actually be much closer to being even.