Bards & AE in zones where players XP.

[Tealia]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol... no

If I am sitting in treeform for 30 minutes as an un-anon/role level 60 druid in Unrest. EVERY train I get tells, bar none. I guarantee it.

No clue here, but my enc doesn't get yelled at for killing people in my many hours of non-anon Unrest patrolling. Anti-druid bias or just gnome love?

[bartly]

Originally Posted by Tealia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No clue here, but my enc doesn't get yelled at for killing people in my many hours of non-anon Unrest patrolling. Anti-druid bias or just gnome love?

Druid PL with thorns and heals can cause huge trains. Mobs are green to the druid so they all run even if social and they run fast. I've seen some enormous PL trains in Crushbone and Blackburrow. And all those lowbies get steamrolled. They don't have thorns, skin, regen, and superior heals inc.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by HalflingWarrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I find it funny so many ppl are complaining about bards AOE kiting to LEVEL THEMSELVES UP yet nobody cares about the fact every lowbie zone is mass pulled by chanter and druid PLers

Uh... Joined February 2014. There's probably 3 posts a week about jackass' PLing in Unrest during prime time when newbies are trying to level.

Simple fact is most people don't like jackass assholes who hog huge number of mobs for the benefit of 1-2 people while denying multiple other groups of people.

It became such a problem that in the past 2ish months the GMs had to change the rules to explicitly state this is not okay.

The only ones defending it are the same jackass assholes that are being complained about.

Edit: And the bard challenge about not being screwed with. Let's try it in burning woods. I think it would be fun to drop a couple dots on Gullerback and then feign in the middle of your pack.

[indiscriminate_hater]

^ lol at white knight attempt. You haven't really thought this one through have you?

[Mandalore93]

And he doesn't even give a good example, you can kite Guller just fine. He just is 100% resistant. Just have to zone him out afterwards, then he comes looking for ya :P

Far worse would be dragging a spell casting Sarnak over. Then you might kill the bard, but he could always just start training you right back with 20x the mobs. Plus unless you roam with see invis up, you'd never see the bard (presuming he's level 51+), though you *might* see the 20 mobs. Or he could just start charming every mob that you fight. Or dispelling all your dots.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Or dropping a bracer of the hidden proc on a fd body.

I assume he was talking about trying to get a summoner aggroed onto you but that brings a whole slew of problems. First you would have to find a guller that actually summons (most don't). Then you would have to get him below 95% health and somehow drag him through the bards kite in hopes of one landing on the gorilla for aggro transfer, all the while getting summoned and beat down yourself. Aggro transfer would have to be instantaneous (hence need for bard to hit it with aoe) otherwise the instant regen would pop it up past 95% health. If it didn't then the full health guller would aggro the bard but be completely harmless because bard aoe magic songs don't land on him.

Suffice to say baalzy doesn't know what the hell he is talking about

[Sarajo]

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countless logical fallacies

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[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And he doesn't even give a good example, you can kite Guller just fine. He just is 100% resistant. Just have to zone him out afterwards, then he comes looking for ya :P

Far worse would be dragging a spell casting Sarnak over. Then you might kill the bard, but he could always just start training you right back with 20x the mobs. Plus unless you roam with see invis up, you'd never see the bard (presuming he's level 51+), though you *might* see the 20 mobs. Or he could just start charming every mob that you fight. Or dispelling all your dots.

A necro who can't see invis? Never gunna happen in an outdoor zone. And I don't really care about killing the bard cause I know how long it takes them to gather up those mobs. 5 min of my work to drop guller on them is going to cause them to lose 20 min of gathering time. That said, timed right all you'd have to do is sick your pet on guller as you feign. With the current aggro transfer rules all I have to do is get guller within range of the kite for a second for him to put mr bardy bard on his hate list. My pet shouldn't have much of a problem with getting guller down to summon range so as soon as it dies it'll begin summoning the bard.

Also not so concerned with them trying to train me back. That's not my end game.

Now if you want to get into petition quest, I don't have to do anything. The bard is already breaking the rules if they refuse to limit their swarms when other people are around.

But I mean, this could all be solved by these bards not acting like asshats.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A necro who can't see invis? Never gunna happen in an outdoor zone. And I don't really care about killing the bard cause I know how long it takes them to gather up those mobs. 5 min of my work to drop guller on them is going to cause them to lose 20 min of gathering time. That said, timed right all you'd have to do is sick your pet on guller as you feign. With the current aggro transfer rules all I have to do is get guller within range of the kite for a second for him to put mr bardy bard on his hate list. My pet shouldn't have much of a problem with getting guller down to summon range so as soon as it dies it'll begin summoning the bard.

Also not so concerned with them trying to train me back. That's not my end game.

Now if you want to get into petition quest, I don't have to do anything. The bard is already breaking the rules if they refuse to limit their swarms when other people are around.

But I mean, this could all be solved by these bards not acting like asshats.

You don't even know how to train...please go.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Ehhh, there are a ton of places to swarm without pissing everyone off.

OT? Pull towards the canyon. Leave fm and sf ramps along.
DL? Stay away from east and north walls of kc.
BW? Stay away from the giant fort?
SK? Leave KFC.

I really don't asked what's so hard about that. You can take 80% of the zone without anyone even noticing a bard is levelling. When someone runs a giant train right over top of you (Water was notorious for this in DL) you will pick up agro.

Have to admit though, it's a bittersweet moment when you get unexpected bard adds knowing that the only reason they're attacking you is because he died.