Really Getsome and IB ?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isnt wow heallun, no matter how much it feela like it now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gold

also, for the modern reference:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=jew%20gold

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the grey area that the person does not require a raid force or guild to have rights to the raid mob

its been settled now very clearly that a singular entity can claim a raid mob, but still its not like Taken did anything besides have a few conversations and accept a piece of loot 45 min after the kill.

there was no plotting. sorry we are not around for all the other FTE disputes or shady tactics that go on so some of this is common place for you guys, but at the time ( and it had been a long day ) it seemed both guilds were sort of in the wrong and was unclear which way the GMs would rule.

thats pretty much it. we arnt pressing this issue any further and have learned from it

but it was pretty clear we knew it wasnt our mob to touch, talking to the other guilds about it and providing logs did not seem to be that dastardly of a thing to do.

Again for posterity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kir7gyjsIoQ

[Corro]

this is the way things have been since FTE messages went in and FTE was king. none of this is new. and a lot of this is the reason i shit so hard on the class r guilds when the raid changes were happening, because if they made literally any effort, they could get mobs, by snagging fte and letting u all kill the mob for them. if you dont have FTE, its not your mob, period.

So if there is no FTE message and no damage has been done then the mobs are FFA? Like the whole wizard ordeal over on that Seafuries post?
I am just confused you are saying that the shout message gives you the rights to kite a dragon around for an hour or however long you want until cavalry arrives?

[Lazie]

But to answer your question. Your players in your guild knew why IB was engaging that mob. How did your officers not know if their was no communication beforehand ? Seems kinda odd that your indians knew and your chiefs didn't. You won't convince anyone of that either btw. Yes you made poor decisions in regards to the loot. Because you yourself say you knew enough to have your pullers clear their aggro. You knew there was no question about that mob at that point and saw loot and was like "Ok lets play politics with IB".

[Erati]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again for posterity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kir7gyjsIoQ

pretty much, I already lol'd when you linked that earlier an you just got me again

haha

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pretty much, I already lol'd when you linked that earlier an you just got me again

haha

First time for me, think it was autotune before.

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Corro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if there is no FTE message and no damage has been done then the mobs are FFA? Like the whole wizard ordeal over on that Seafuries post?
I am just confused you are saying that the shout message gives you the rights to kite a dragon around for an hour or however long you want until cavalry arrives?

No, kiting a mob to delay as you muster a raid force is against the rules. Fay engage entails tagging near the spawn point and running to ogre island. This takes ~5 minutes and is the accepted pull on this here server with these here rules. During that time you can gather you raid force and buff, but you cannot take Fay on some 20 minute TD adventure.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Corro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if there is no FTE message and no damage has been done then the mobs are FFA? Like the whole wizard ordeal over on that Seafuries post?
I am just confused you are saying that the shout message gives you the rights to kite a dragon around for an hour or however long you want until cavalry arrives?

Has a dragon been kited ? Has anyone said that was ok to do.. like anywhere ? Then why are you asking ? BTW there is always an FTE message if you do something to make a dragon chase you. If you need those questions answered then you really don't understand the raid pnp and rules.

[Fountree]

I think Detoxx is just happy all the useless people like Zeelot, DD, Loly, Eccezan, faz, olidaen, tortue, me, zilo, sworen, tegellan etc. are gone and out of the way so his elite crew can take over. And now its clear and easy for him to collect those PD items too.

(psst. there will be more soon)

[Corro]

Gotcha that makes sense, but is the same for other mobs like Sev? Meaning that 5 minute window that is ok for Fayd can fly for the other dragons?