2012 Presidential Debates

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most democratic candidates get at least 90% of the black vote, so the fact that Obama got 96% of the black vote has less to do with the colour of his skin than it does his political beliefs. It seems from your post that you're saying they overwhelmingly voted for him just because he's also black, which isn't really supported by any data. Similarly, republican candidates tend to get more of the white vote, so it would be disingenuous for me to say that white people are only voting for Romney because they're just "voting for another white man".

Clinton won the black vote 83/10 and 84/12. Gore won it 90/9. Kerry won 88/11. Obama won the black vote 95/4 in 2008, and the amount of black voters increased by 4% (white voters decreased by 1%). In a recent poll, the current 2012 split was Obama 94, Romney 0.

He'd win the black vote anyway, but he's clearly winning it by historically large margins. A few percentage points is an enormous difference when talking about nationwide elections. You can debate the reasons for his success, but that's the fact.

He's also dominating the Latino vote by historically unseen margins (relative to typical Democratic nominees), and the proportion of Latino voters has skyrocketed.

And he's winning the gay vote by large margins, too -- but he's not winning it by any greater of a margin than your typical Democrat.

He's getting killed in white voter polls, but it doesn't really matter. He's going to win this election going away.

[runlvlzero]

Vote Ron Paul =)

[Rushmore]

I didn't get to read all the posts so sorry if it was mentioned.

but all I read was pretty much how we are so far screwed it's not even funny. I agree.

No one will solve our problems. OR the worlds. We could probably agree and disagree on a lot of issues. I'm sorta in the middle. But GOD exists. If you don't believe in GOD there is no loss in asking him to speak to you and show you the truth one evening before you go to bed! If he exists!?

Study the bible and the history of Israel since becoming a country in 1948. "No generation shall pass!" We are in the last generations... Most of you know whether you believe in GOD or not...Things aren't going to get any better. No one has the answer.

IT says in my bible among many other things that in the last days the world will come against Israel. Lots of wars will happen. Famine! Earthquakes. Signs in the stars! It says in the dusty book that the JEWS would be scattered among the nations and one day gathered back to ISRAEL! Which has happened! 1948

It also predicts that the worlds problems will be so large that one man will come with the answers and everyone will love him! (the Antichrist)

That money is the root of all eveil... (SEE ALL THE DEBT....which leads to WARS)

EQ pals. Maybe I'm the idiot. Maybe you're the idiot. But only one of us... or someone else is right! Right or Wrong. There is only one truth!

Love...Rushmore

[Cwall]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I'm the idiot

will go with that one

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't get to read all the posts so sorry if it was mentioned.

but all I read was pretty much how we are so far screwed it's not even funny. I agree.

No one will solve our problems. OR the worlds. We could probably agree and disagree on a lot of issues. I'm sorta in the middle. But GOD exists. If you don't believe in GOD there is no loss in asking him to speak to you and show you the truth one evening before you go to bed! If he exists!?

Study the bible and the history of Israel since becoming a country in 1948. "No generation shall pass!" We are in the last generations... Most of you know whether you believe in GOD or not...Things aren't going to get any better. No one has the answer.

IT says in my bible among many other things that in the last days the world will come against Israel. Lots of wars will happen. Famine! Earthquakes. Signs in the stars! It says in the dusty book that the JEWS would be scattered among the nations and one day gathered back to ISRAEL! Which has happened! 1948

It also predicts that the worlds problems will be so large that one man will come with the answers and everyone will love him! (the Antichrist)

That money is the root of all eveil... (SEE ALL THE DEBT....which leads to WARS)

EQ pals. Maybe I'm the idiot. Maybe you're the idiot. But only one of us... or someone else is right! Right or Wrong. There is only one truth!

Love...Rushmore

Well now this thread is a sacred text >.<

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That money is the root of all eveil... (SEE ALL THE DEBT....which leads to WARS)

"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 TIMOTHY 6:10

This is generally taken to mean that pursuing money as an end in and of itself can contribute to one's ruin. It does NOT mean that a currency based economic system is sinful. The Bible clearly recognizes that currency issuance is a proper function of the government.

Study the bible and the history of Israel since becoming a country in 1948. "No generation shall pass!" We are in the last generations... Most of you know whether you believe in GOD or not...Things aren't going to get any better. No one has the answer.

While there are clearly prophetic signs of the end times, no man knows the appointed hour. It is fallacious to think that things cannot improve. Being told that the end times are the "worst" does not mean we are on a linear slope of degradation. Do you believe that humanity was better off 500 years ago? 50?

To think that the world cannot be improved is a losing battle, and it is a defeatist mindset. Because no one knows the hour, you are expected to work to your utmost until the very end. Things can always be better.

Though prophecy clearly shows a time of great turmoil, it also ends with the Victory of Christ. Do you plan to look Him in the eye and say that you gave up?

[Reiker000]

Oh great, now we've summoned the religious nuts.

If you look at how far religion has single-handedly set the human race back, then the current state of the world starts looking a lot more positive in comparison.

[Frieza_Prexus]

If you look at how far human nature has single-handedly set the human race back, then the current state of the world starts looking a lot more positive in comparison.

Fixed.

[Reiker000]

Your point means nothing. Maybe you should try explaining your position instead of just altering a quote and attaching a "ftfy" to it. People much more intelligent than you have been debating human nature and its effect on civilization for centuries.

I would agree that the general populace's humanistic quality to explore mysticism/spiritualism throughout the years has been exploited by others seeking power ie. most organized religions.

[Frieza_Prexus]

It means nothing, yet you find enough meaning to "agree."

I am simply responding to your "religious nut" statement. That surely meant something. I submit that you invited a rebuttal. If you're looking for a meaningless statement, I suggest you re-read your statement concerning more intelligent people than myself. What did you hope to accomplish with that, other than a dismissal of me?

My point was simply to note that religion is not the cause of our problems. It is instead the exploitative nature of humanity. Which you yourself agreed with.

I posted the Southpark picture because I thought it was extremely topical. Dare I say, clever.