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Old 03-14-2022, 08:04 PM
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:09 PM
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Italians are immense weirdos. They are very passionate and try very hard to welcome Ukraine!
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:23 PM
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I wonder if all the conservatives said hippies were pro russia during vietnam too, oh yeah they did.

What about when the bush administration said the daily show was being pro iraq when they critisized bush, dang yeah that happened.

And now the secular evangelicals waging a holy war against russia say calling them that is pro putin.

Dont be on that side.
Except this time its conservatives actually being pro Russia just to F joe biden right? We are talking about a world power that invaded Ukraine a second time in 10 years right? Equating the pro-ukraine movement to whatever random movements from the recent past is disingenuous.

Imagine China invades Myanmar because Myanmar does business with Taiwan. China is the bad guy, Myanmar is the good guy. Theres no doubts about it.

The desire for peace is tempered with the desire for right action. Saying "I choose peace" while bad guys are knocking down neighbors is pretty pointless.
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:31 PM
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the thing that makes this look different to u and me is that I consider this stuff you speak of to be more of the "flavor" of the soup. The thing is, we're in a soup. And the soup is what it is. It has that flavor. The options are, poor out the soup and try again, or figure out how to live with that flavor.

War, is pouring the soup out, it will spoil the whole batch. Just dealing with it, like for example the way we have for 20 years, is far better than spoiling the whole batch.

It's like, I agree with you about what's right, but I dont agree that it's attainable.

If we chose peace, the bad guys would be operating the neighbors highest levels of goverment, but if we dont there are no neighbors at all. I cant in good faith agree that life in the Russian federation is worse than life in Ukraine right now, and for the foreseeable future.

Right now the progressive youths in russia are being scooped up and thrown in jail for 15 years for all we know.

Becuase of the world pushing by fighting back, and forcing russia to have to take drastic measures to hide the truth.

If we chose peace russians would be arguing online and we'd be able to make some forward progress, but now we're going to regress into our worst.

I could be wrong.
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:37 PM
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I'm not telling anyone what to do. I am cheering for the freedom fighters who are in their element.

Sinful.

Maybe.

I want the freedom fighters to be happy.

I don't know how G-d feels in this case and can't speak for G-d.

Don't fight for anger. Fight for something better. If you're going to fight.

If you can't. Or won't fight. I'll reserve my own judgment. Depending on your reasons. I probably won't be calling anyone a coward today. Besides if you fight on the side of Russia because you're afraid of Putin. I don't even know what to say.

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Old 03-14-2022, 08:39 PM
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why cant we be cheering for the freedom negotiators? Why is it fight? I dont cheer for fight I just cant.
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:40 PM
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why cant we be cheering for the freedom negotiators? Why is it fight? I dont cheer for fight I just cant.
Hey. You saw my big posts about how Isreal is the good guy with the negotiations table?

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Maybe I'm horrible person. I do care. I want to do the right thing. My mind is open. I'm looking for an end to the war. I want G-d to win.
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:47 PM
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Im critiquing the situation like its possible to change it so I should just shutup and enjoy the ride.

Not gonna stop saying like 2 days after covid was gone world war 3 started.

Happy tribulation year 3 everyone!
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:51 PM
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Im critiquing the situation like its possible to change it so I should just shutup and enjoy the ride.

Not gonna stop saying like 2 days after covid was gone world war 3 started.

Happy tribulation year 3 everyone!
See ya later jib. And if not God bless!

If u start a new hobby or find something insightful in the scriptures I'd like to know.

There are probably better places for that then p99.

Remember your entire lifes thread matters. Don't cut it short in despair. Look for ways to endure. It will lift your spirit when you look back in rememberence and your soul is in its final embrace.

Make Satan kill you (and maybe even regret it, if that'spossible). Don't do his job for him!

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Old 03-14-2022, 09:20 PM
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