religion

[Barkingturtle]

10k books seems like a lot of books, but I bet if I had almost 14 billion years I could write several billion books.

So, basically, God ain't got shit on me. Suck it you fucking bitch.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

10k books seems like a lot of books, but I bet if I had almost 14 billion years I could write several billion books.

So, basically, God ain't got shit on me. Suck it you fucking bitch.

So you agree that the information must have been written by an intelligent source and not random chance

Thanks for playing

[iruinedyourday]

I remember when I started playing EQ i was like, man this game is OK but I hope it introduces me to people I normally wouldn't ever meet so i can talk about religion with them.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you agree that the information must have been written by an intelligent source and not random chance

Thanks for playing

Maybe it was a series of random chances that happened over the course of millions of years.

That being said, doesn't seem like 10,000 books is much to write over the course of the universe's known existence. Really, maybe it wasn't written at all, and it was pieced together in a series of fusions that happened.... Accidentally not accidental. We aren't mistakes, in reference to how we have become to evolve into what we are.

Or maybe it was aliens.

Isn't that easier to believe than in an all-powerful, all-seeing deity of selfless discipline that was written about by MEN only a couple thousand years ago?

Not trying to be offensive, but I find the alien theory the easiest to reach closure on.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember when I started playing EQ i was like, man this game is OK but I hope it introduces me to people I normally wouldn't ever meet so i can talk about religion with them.

Is this an indirect way of confirming that you put no effort into and have no desire to, participate in a face to face discussion with someone that may have a dissenting opinion about a topic?

[indiscriminate_hater]

kaga if you're going to try and win arguments by sounding smart at least use correct grammar

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I'll put commas, wherever I want to!

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll put commas, wherever I want to!

omg I just died

[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is enough information in one stand of DNA to fill a library with 10K books. How did that data get there? Can such ordered and detailed data which powers and organizes life been written purely by accidental chance or "gradual changes over time"?

The mutations are random. I will give you that. You forgot about one thing. Natural selection. Would you expect to find an unordered library? What do you think happens to an organism if it has unordered DNA?

Life has had trillions and trillions and trillions of random mutations either selected for or against by nature. That is what arranges the library. If you follow a species heritage backwards you will see every single generation that spans back to the first cell produced that library. Not by random chance alone but by being forged by their surrounding environment.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it was a series of random chances that happened over the course of millions of years.

That being said, doesn't seem like 10,000 books is much to write over the course of the universe's known existence. Really, maybe it wasn't written at all, and it was pieced together in a series of fusions that happened.... Accidentally not accidental. We aren't mistakes, in reference to how we have become to evolve into what we are.

Or maybe it was aliens.

Isn't that easier to believe than in an all-powerful, all-seeing deity of selfless discipline that was written about by MEN only a couple thousand years ago?

Not trying to be offensive, but I find the alien theory the easiest to reach closure on.

10K books in ONE strand of DNA. Can you read?

The perimeters that you outline are pure fantasy. How does ordered, structured and purposeful code write itself randomly from nothing? Not only that, but because of certain laws that govern the universe, data and information degrade over time, so to claim that information that magically writes itself becomes more ordered and complex over time violates basic fundamental principles that government The Universe

I know that's probably way over your head so let's just talk simple proteins. A simple protein (not even creating life just one part of many complex parts needed) requires a precise sequence of 125 amino acid molecules with 20 types to choose from. The odds of every piece forming into the exact sequence needed is 4 x 10 to the 162nd power. In other words a mathematical impossibility.

So how did they magically form in the primordial goo and create life from Nothing?