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[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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"Natural Selection has always been about survival of the fittest."

The fittest for the environment you numbskull. That can mean smaller. That can mean less hairy. That can mean just about anything. If the mutation is beneficial for surviving the environment the organism lives and reproduces.

"So now your magical force for Evolution lies are reproductive organs?"

Where are you getting this? Sexual organs did not spring out of thin air and arent the only way of reproducing. If you are curious about how sex organs evolved you can easily google it.

"There isn't a single example that can be given of spontaneous new genetic information and data being written to the genome from pure randomness and Nothing. "

Except it does and it has been observed in a lab. I sited the papers but you wont even acknowledge them. I am about done with you.

"A mutation is a random chaotic and destructive force. Not a creative force."

FFS, I have corrected you on this how many times now? I am done. Welcome to /ignore because you are being completely unreasonable and repeating the same nonsense while ignoring every correction and piece of data thrown at you.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Natural Selection has always been about survival of the fittest."

The fittest for the environment you numbskull. That can mean smaller. That can mean less hairy. That can mean just about anything. If the mutation is beneficial for surviving the environment the organism lives and reproduces.

"So now your magical force for Evolution lies are reproductive organs?"

Where are you getting this? Sexual organs did not spring out of thin air and arent the only way of reproducing. If you are curious about how sex organs evolved you can easily google it.

"There isn't a single example that can be given of spontaneous new genetic information and data being written to the genome from pure randomness and Nothing. "

Except it does and it has been observed in a lab. I sited the papers but you wont even acknowledge them. I am about done with you.

"A mutation is a random chaotic and destructive force. Not a creative force."

FFS, I have corrected you on this how many times now? I am done. Welcome to /ignore because you are being completely unreasonable and repeating the same nonsense while ignoring every correction and piece of data thrown at you.

*cited not sited...it's late [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[G13]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Natural Selection has always been about survival of the fittest."

The fittest for the environment you numbskull. That can mean smaller. That can mean less hairy. That can mean just about anything. If the mutation is beneficial for surviving the environment the organism lives and reproduces.

Variations within species. Not a change of kinds. Not macro-evolution. Not the intelligent creation of structured and legible genetic code that works in complete harmony with existing code.

"So now your magical force for Evolution lies are reproductive organs?"

Where are you getting this? Sexual organs did not spring out of thin air and arent the only way of reproducing. If you are curious about how sex organs evolved you can easily google it.

/boggle

You're the one who claimed breeding = prove of macro evolution. These terms such as macro and micro really don't fit anyways. It would really push the discussion along if you're tiny brain could understand the difference between the two and their relationship to Universal Laws but alas ....

"There isn't a single example that can be given of spontaneous new genetic information and data being written to the genome from pure randomness and Nothing. "

Except it does and it has been observed in a lab. I sited the papers but you wont even acknowledge them. I am about done with you.

Bacteria that is still bacteria. It's not my problem you aren't grasping the points i'm making because you aren't very bright. You're googling a bunch of nonsense that isn't addressing the real points being made. That is not my problem. That is your problem.

"A mutation is a random chaotic and destructive force. Not a creative force."

FFS, I have corrected you on this how many times now? I am done. Welcome to /ignore because you are being completely unreasonable and repeating the same nonsense while ignoring every correction and piece of data thrown at you.

Even the most prominent Evolutionists acknowledge mutations are not a creative force. Go ahead and ignore me. Take your ball and go home because you simply don't have a proper understanding of the subject. Mutations are random. They wouldn't create ordered and structure (and elegant design) within animals. For example eyes/nose/mouth on a face in perfect symmetrical structure equaling the golden ratio of 1.618. A precise mathematical calculation not only seen on the face, but everywhere in the entire Universe.

Show me ONE example of a mutation creating an entirely new, never before seen type/kind of animal upon this planet or anywhere else.

Just one

[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW an example was already given to dispute this several pages ago

They've been trying with fruit flies for decades. Still fruit flies

The Russians have been trying with silver foxes. Still foxes

Next

So stupid...

No one is trying to morph fruit flies into a new species. Cite the study if it has happened. Fruit flies are used in experiments for the same reason mice are. They breed fast and they are cheap so you get to see the results quick.

The study on foxes in Russia is a behavior study involving genes. They arent trying to make a new species. They are studying the effects of genes on behavior and other traits. This is why they are breed in two separate distinct lines. One line is being breed to be less aggressive and the other is being bread to be super aggressive.

Ok, now I am done with you. Couldnt let this nonsense go unchecked.

[RobotElvis]

I just wish everyone would stop being abilists.

#abilism

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvCG29P85U

[G13]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So stupid...

No one is trying to morph fruit flies into a new species. Cite the study if it has happened. Fruit flies are used in experiments for the same reason mice are. They breed fast and they are cheap so you get to see the results quick.

The study on foxes in Russia is a behavior study involving genes. They arent trying to make a new species. They are studying the effects of genes on behavior and other traits. This is why they are breed in two separate distinct lines. One line is being breed to be less aggressive and the other is being bread to be super aggressive.

Ok, now I am done with you. Couldnt let this nonsense go unchecked.

Oh I get it. They are stupid examples because they refute your BS claims. You're the one that brought up breeding. Now you want to run away from it? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They've been breeding fruit flies for generations. Still fruit flies.

The same with foxes. Still foxes.

Go ahead and take your ball and go home. Dodger game is on anyways and it's not very challenging to have a discussion with someone who doesn't have a fundamental grasp of the topic and is resorting to copy/pasting shit he doesn't even understand

/wave

[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This message is hidden because G13 is on your ignore list.

I hope it was a long winded message. No hope for you unfortunately. I tried.

[G13]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope it was a long winded message. No hope for you unfortunately. I tried.

/shrug

You're a coward

Not surprising

[Tenlaar]

I got bored trying to follow his logic, but I like the way that G13 is basically going "nuh uh nuh uh nuh uh, if there's no god then EXPLAIN TO ME THE ORIGINS OF LIFE AND EXISTENCE!" Because that is a totally reasonable thing to expect.

Here is an irrefutable fact: the answer to anything and everything that has been figured out in the history of humans as we know it has never, ever, not once been magic.

[leewong]

If G13 actually puts his money where his mouth is and cites the fucking paper showing a lab trying to morph fruit flies into a new species someone please tell me. He wont but I still have to cover my bases.