Teams - whats better?

[Sarius]

I think 4 teams would be best. As stated previously elves, humans/barbs, evil, shorties. I would defiantly roll a char on red if this were the case.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so being from paineel means you are the evil of the evil?

Actually yes, Cazic and Inno are about the most hated and feared, and the Paineel erudites want domination over everything in the most tyrannical way and are willing to stop at nothing to get it. Hence Paineel. They don't consider their actions and even if Paineel wasn't their fault they still were a party to it and have no remorse. Innoruuk worshipers don't mind the servitude of other worshippers. Cazic worshippers just want everyone to fear them and acknowledge them as #1 badasses. Inno lawful evil, Cazic straight up Chaotic Evil. Only might makes right.

Talkin ruins of old Paineel here. The hole.

The other erudites are too much like vulcans and completely uncarring about things like Kerrans and the savage races who are too easily swayed by "good and evil".

They even wage their own genocidal stuff in lore against Kerrans etc... because theres no place for them in their enlightened world.

Seems pretty evil to me.

[Technique]

Imposed teams are a bad concept for an MMO.

If you're not okay with being alone, yet too dysfunctional to fit in with a group/guild, then too bad. Rules dictating that you must be tolerated by anyone unfortunate enough to belong to the same team is a harsh constraint on player agency.

The sheer amount of hardcoded handholding that some of the self-described "red as fuck" PvPers on this server are in support of is just laughable.

[Tune]

lol so much mad n bad

i am flattered w/ all the attention though, thank you

seriously teams are stupid , same end result

[Colgate]

calls people mad, floods me with tells in-game telling me i'll be banned for hacking

o k a y

[SamwiseRed]

damn soldier, you sound kinda invested. sup man?

[Tune]

colgates immersion is frightening, < 1 minute response

[liveitup1216]

I don't feel like going back but basically the guy who said FFA is better because he wants to be able to attack anybody is a big reason why red is dead. Teams will give some structure to this cesspool.

[Zihm]

The teams don't have to be good versus evil. Just divide the classes up evenly, even if it means putting seemingly random races together. If people are tired of "stale" EQ this shouldn't be too disconcerting for people. Ogres and dwarves on the same team, for example, would be an interesting element. You'd be attacked by NPCs of that race, most likely, but you'd be able to group with one another. Like two enemies that have come together to work against a common enemy (like Horde and Alliance working together against the Burning Legion, for instance).

In a FFA system, ogres and dwarves (to use the same example) can group together without reconciling this. Or we could just make up some shitty backstory to justify it and boom, total immersion.

The good vs. evil thing is just another stale element of the game.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are people really debating teams on a 150 player box? You guys think there's hundreds of hidden players out there waiting for a teams server? You think this won't just be another zerg fest? We're really discussing this when resists are still broken 2 years later? Lol?

Let prophet HB tell you how this one will play out. Week 1 huge numbers 400-600 players having a blast. Week 2, down to the 350 range. Week 3 heading into the 200's during daytime. Week 4 peaking @ 200 during prime time. Week 8, one zerg guild had taken over by this point, pop barely hanging onto triple digits primetime. GG. The pop on red is low because 1) not enough people care about red99 on planet earth, 2) resists are awful, 3) boxing isn't allowed so you need to guild with tons of people you normally wouldn't play with in order to accomplish things, 4) the VZTZ crowd is the worst group of sociopaths to ever play a MMO.

tldr

LOL this novel writer is currently trying to convince another thread that hes not one of the immersed ones.