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[Splorf22]

I honestly do not believe additional concessions are required based on the Divinity plan. TMO/FE etc just don't understand how good it is for them.

1. 14 days of rotation, rest of the month FFA. Result: 168 days of rotation out of 365. So they get 54% of the mobs right there.

2. Then (assuming a 10 guild rotation) they get 20% of the rotated mobs. Guilds like AG, Europa, and the A-Team would probably give up 30-40% of our mobs because we aren't 24 hour capable. So thats another 10% that would become FFA. No one other than FE and TMO can kill Hoshkar and Nexona, so they get another few percent. And finally, the rotation only specifies 2 rounds - sometimes three mobs will spawn. It's real hard for me to see how FE/TMO as a unit don't get 35% of the mobs during the two weeks of rotation.

So, 46% * 1/3 + 54% means TMO, FE, and IB together will get 70% of all targets. That's really not bad at all.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly do not believe additional concessions are required based on the Divinity plan. TMO/FE etc just don't understand how good it is for them.

1. 14 days of rotation, rest of the month FFA. Result: 168 days of rotation out of 365. So they get 54% of the mobs right there.

2. Then (assuming a 10 guild rotation) they get 20% of the rotated mobs. Guilds like AG, Europa, and the A-Team would probably give up 30-40% of our mobs because we aren't 24 hour capable. So thats another 10% that would become FFA. No one other than FE and TMO can kill Hoshkar and Nexona, so they get another few percent. And finally, the rotation only specifies 2 rounds - sometimes three mobs will spawn. It's real hard for me to see how FE/TMO as a unit don't get 35% of the mobs during the two weeks of rotation.

So, 46% * 1/3 + 54% means TMO, FE, and IB together will get 70% of all targets. That's really not bad at all.

that would work great, except for amazingly large variance. Unless the rotation just picks up where it leaves off after the 14 days, but then that means there is going to be a huge wait for rotations.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that would work great, except for amazingly large variance. Unless the rotation just picks up where it leaves off after the 14 days, but then that means there is going to be a huge wait for rotations.

This has to be based on sort of FTE. You can't expect TMO to get the same stuff the Buttholesurfers Guild gets. Hell why even play? They where top dog for a reason. You want them and FE to just wait 3 weeks for a who gives a shit Raid Mob to pop??

I got bad news for you all. This is NEVER going to work long term. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Hell lets all go look for Butterflies and Unicorns.

[Lisset]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You want them and FE to just wait 3 weeks for a who gives a shit Raid Mob to pop??

Who gives a shit raid mob? Apparently TMO gave a shit because of all the effort they spent keeping everyone else from them and turning this server into a thugocracy.

I'm sorry, but asking TMO to help fix this is like having the Nazis on the war crimes tribunal.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that would work great, except for amazingly large variance. Unless the rotation just picks up where it leaves off after the 14 days, but then that means there is going to be a huge wait for rotations.

This has to be based on sort of FTE. You can't expect TMO to get the same stuff the Buttholesurfers Guild gets. Hell why even play? They where top dog for a reason. You want them and FE to just wait 3 weeks for a who gives a shit Raid Mob to pop??

I got bad news for you all. This is NEVER going to work long term. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lisset]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has to be based on sort of FTE. You can't expect TMO to get the same stuff the Buttholesurfers Guild gets. Hell why even play? They where top dog for a reason. You want them and FE to just wait 3 weeks for a who gives a shit Raid Mob to pop??

I got bad news for you all. This is NEVER going to work long term. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We read it the first time, rerun. Saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it right, it just makes it redundant.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly do not believe additional concessions are required based on the Divinity plan. TMO/FE etc just don't understand how good it is for them.

1. 14 days of rotation, rest of the month FFA. Result: 168 days of rotation out of 365. So they get 54% of the mobs right there.

2. Then (assuming a 10 guild rotation) they get 20% of the rotated mobs. Guilds like AG, Europa, and the A-Team would probably give up 30-40% of our mobs because we aren't 24 hour capable. So thats another 10% that would become FFA. No one other than FE and TMO can kill Hoshkar and Nexona, so they get another few percent. And finally, the rotation only specifies 2 rounds - sometimes three mobs will spawn. It's real hard for me to see how FE/TMO as a unit don't get 35% of the mobs during the two weeks of rotation.

So, 46% * 1/3 + 54% means TMO, FE, and IB together will get 70% of all targets. That's really not bad at all.

Why not just accept the Proposed Plan by TMO/FE/IB, let the plan shift to the 10 days that was suggested and if Category B guilds want to rotate among themselves, so be it.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Mezzmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just accept the Proposed Plan by TMO/FE/IB, let the plan shift to the 10 days that was suggested and if Category B guilds want to rotate among themselves, so be it.

Why should we capitulate? We lose very little by the extended raid suspension, you are suggesting the agreements are actually pretty close, and you are in the minority.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why should we capitulate? We lose very little by the extended raid suspension, you are suggesting the agreements are actually pretty close, and you are in the minority.

Hive Guild with DKP Loot Distribution is still the best option. You get rewarded for your participation and contribution, just like every other video game out there.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why should we capitulate? We lose very little by the extended raid suspension, you are suggesting the agreements are actually pretty close, and you are in the minority.

Prove we are in the minority. We have something like 300-400 people signed off.