Sirken's proposal

[Exmo]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, have you actually raided on p99?

He raids with BDA.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post. I quoted this part because I felt exactly the same way. Even if I had 1,000,000 plat I still wouldn't have bought soul leech for my epic. I wanted to kill CT for it.

Many, many people have this conception that the raid scene is completely "toxic" because these huge drama posts about FTE sniping and trains get posted in RNF. They get a lot of attention. But for the most part raid encounters are not like that. There probably isn't as much drama or rule breaking as you think. Some encounters will always be messy. Anything in Hate or Fear can involve training, and a lot of it. That's the nature of those zones, and it's usually not on purpose. Aside from this, most engages go smoothly even with both guilds trying their hardest to win.

it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the bunch.

back in the day when I played I remember specifically rogaen stated that pullers in pofear are going to train each other accidentally and that csr would not be involved.

we went up to clear for armor and another guild came up after they had appointed a person to run around with a kite and do nothing but train our pullers because they took it as training in the field was legal.

that leaves a very sour taste in the mouth, and it doesn't take but a couple of experiences like that before you don't even want to try because you know they know they are misinterpreting the rules to get the edge.

competition? please...that's being a dick for dicks sake and there is no need of that but people do it. How is that fun for anyone? and people wonder why the casuals don't want to sit for 30+ hours just to have some BS like that happen, even rarely, once is more than enough to turn most people away from raiding.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, have you actually raided on p99?

of course he fucking has, just not to the TMO extreme level because of every fucking reason i've listed a dozen times

DO YOU EVEN RAID BRO?!?! It's such a fucking tired response.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, have you actually raided on p99?

Yes, rather actively in fact.

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's the nature of the encounter when additional guilds try to leapfrog and be general idiots, there's no respect in this raid scene, and it's disingenuous at best to pretend like it's a factor of the encounter and not the hardcores doing whatever it takes to get dem pixels, and whether intent is there or not it doesn't matter because it's usually impossible to prove and you need HD-Fraps from 4 different angles and even then a conviction is unlikely

that's the game we don't want to play and boiling it down to "it ain't so bad" is just your opinion because you've made peace with the idea of shitting on someone else to get what you want

Kinda like stealing Draco because you thought TMO was kiting?

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

of course he fucking has, just not to the TMO extreme level because of every fucking reason i've listed a dozen times

DO YOU EVEN RAID BRO?!?! It's such a fucking tired response.

If you don't shit in a sock for 3 days straight without sleep, you're not raiding

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda like stealing Draco because you thought TMO was kiting?

kinda like ripping an officer core apart from the inside out because we wouldn't make your boyfriend a raid leader?

see? i can do that too

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's the nature of the encounter when additional guilds try to leapfrog and be general idiots, there's no respect in this raid scene, and it's disingenuous at best to pretend like it's a factor of the encounter and not the hardcores doing whatever it takes to get dem pixels, and whether intent is there or not it doesn't matter because it's usually impossible to prove and you need HD-Fraps from 4 different angles and even then a conviction is unlikely

that's the game we don't want to play and boiling it down to "it ain't so bad" is just your opinion because you've made peace with the idea of shitting on someone else to get what you want

Respect is earned, also you have to give respect to get it. There has never been a time Lord Chest has respected any of the Hardcore guilds.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's the nature of the encounter when additional guilds try to leapfrog and be general idiots, there's no respect in this raid scene, and it's disingenuous at best to pretend like it's a factor of the encounter and not the hardcores doing whatever it takes to get dem pixels, and whether intent is there or not it doesn't matter because it's usually impossible to prove and you need HD-Fraps from 4 different angles and even then a conviction is unlikely

that's the game we don't want to play and boiling it down to "it ain't so bad" is just your opinion because you've made peace with the idea of shitting on someone else to get what you want

So, I'm under the impression you would prefer to be able to clear the entire plane before pulling a God? Yea, I guess I just don't mind the way it is. Matter of opinion. It will always be faster, even if there is some risk.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Respect is earning, also you have to give respect to get it. There has never been a time Lord Chest has respected any of the Hardcore guilds.

respect is a two way street alarti, and there's never been a point where the hardcore guilds stopped shitting on the little guys, it's never enough and that's the issue right?