DAOC: Uthgard Revamp

[Brynnag]

I'll prob check this out, rerollin my nightshade for the hippies!

Cant count how many times that little rogue nuke came in handy killing people running away from me lol.

[backman_66]

Just to add to Scrooge's post about stats, STR also determines your carrying capacity. And if you're too encumbered, you won't be able to move like on EQ. A good strategy in RvR is to debuff str on casters who only have a base str of about 40-50 usually. One str debuff will put them down to 0 str unbuffed, and they won't be able to move at all. There's also a str + con debuff to add on top of that, so you could potentially debuff someone's str by about 100~ points.

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by backman_66 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to add to Scrooge's post about stats, STR also determines your carrying capacity. And if you're too encumbered, you won't be able to move like on EQ. A good strategy in RvR is to debuff str on casters who only have a base str of about 40-50 usually. One str debuff will put them down to 0 str unbuffed, and they won't be able to move at all. There's also a str + con debuff to add on top of that, so you could potentially debuff someone's str by about 100~ points.

Just to add to backman's post about this strat, your debuffs increase in 'value' as you level, some debuffs are base spells so you get them automatically, the 'combo debuffs' which debuff more than 1 stat are obtained through training only. Also, 100 STR is huge at low-mid lvls, even with buffs it'll be a huge penalty not just to casters but melees also, and most casters won't have a STR/CON buff on them as those are primarily saved for melees.

I'll explain more about buffing in DAoC, there are 2 types of buffs; timed buffs, and concentration buffs. Timed buffs have a timer ranging anywhere from 5-20min, and can be cast on as many targets as your mana will allow. Concentration buffs however, have a limit to how many of them you can spread around but do not have a timer.

At the bottom of the window where you see all your spells will be a 'Conc' button which will reveal how many buffs you have placed, on who, and how much more concentration you have left. Combo buffs (str/con, dex/qui) take more Conc than single stat buffs, and depending on the realm you're in, different buffs have different means of placement.

Another thing about Conc buffs is that they have a certain range, so if you get too far away from the person who buffed you, the buffs will stop working - the icons wont disappear so if you get close enough they'll start working again, timed buffs don't have this limitation. Conc buffs will also disappear upon zoning, while timed buffs do not. The efficiency of buffs also depend on the border of the buff icons and how many spec points are invested in that spec line, much like with mobs and items, they range from grey buffs to purple buffs, and the higher level the buffs the more conc they consume.

So for example if 1 Druid has a Nurture spec of 40, while another Druid has a Nurture spec of 30, even if both Druids are the same level - their single stat (base) buffs will differ. In order to increase the efficiency of base spells/buffs, certain items in the game provide spec bonuses like +3 Nurture or +5 Light Magic. When you start gaining Realm Ranks through PvP, every 'whole level' you gain, like RR2, RR3, etc. will give +1 to ALL your spec lines and this stacks with spec bonuses from items. However, spec bonuses from items have a limitation (just like stats) based on your level, the cap starts at +1 and goes up every 5 lvls, so by lvl 50 you can have as much as +11 bonus to a spec line from items alone.

This information is good to know so you can plan your specs ahead of time, and don't need to spend more points than needed. Keep in mind though, the bonuses to a spec line only increase existing base buffs/spells, base melee damage and style damage, but they will not grant you new abilities like you'd have if you actually invested training points into that spec line.

Debuffs are all timed and instant cast, some Crowrd Control spells are instant depending on class while others are timed, instant cast CC spells normally have a much shorter duration though.

Another difference between EQ and DAoC in terms of the stamina buff, the DAoC version of that is the Endurance buff/song, which is actually one of the most important spells for melees who have weapon specs for styles, as all styles use endurance - the Sprint ability (everyone gets this automatically) also takes endurance at 5% per tick.

So a good Bard can actually twist their speed song and their endurance song, and allow the entire group to sprint at the same time, this is called often called 'Speed 6' (cause speed 5 is the final speed song/chant the runners of all 3 realms max out at.) In DAoC you actually have to keep switching songs nonstop to keep them up at the same time, and because a song 'tick' is 6 seconds you can actually twist up to 3 songs efficiently, if you have quick fingers and time it properly.

[Tradesonred]

You guys arent interested in shadowbane? Open beta emu soon lol

Ive tried to get into DAOC, twice, didnt grab me, cant put fingers on what exactly i find boring, perma highlander look on my merc didnt help.

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys arent interested in shadowbane? Open beta emu soon lol

Ive tried to get into DAOC, twice, didnt grab me, cant put fingers on what exactly i find boring, perma highlander look on my merc didnt help.

I played Shadowbane when it first came out and it was alright when it was new, but it just doesn't come close to the PvP fun factor of DAoC, although I might have a look at that shard until Uthgard is up again.

If the Albioin experience wasn't what you were looking for, I can relate, except I didn't make the mistake of playing there solo, and had a handful of friends to group with right off the bat. Maybe you should try some classes in Hibernia, every time I played that realm on Uthgard in the years prior, I always had a good time, even when starting from scratch and without a pre-made guild like the one we're going to have.

[Tulnavara]

Best Hib RvR group still 4 mana chanters, 1 hero (50 spear, 42shield for slam), 1 warden (enough nurture for last bubble), 1 bard(music to first ae mez, nurture to end4 rest resto), and 1 druid(resto/nurt). Wreck everything even 8v40 relic raids in a castle with MoC.

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Tulnavara [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best Hib RvR group still 4 mana chanters, 1 hero (50 spear, 42shield for slam), 1 warden (enough nurture for last bubble), 1 bard(music to first ae mez, nurture to end4 rest resto), and 1 druid(resto/nurt). Wreck everything even 8v40 relic raids in a castle with MoC.

Definitely worth giving it a try, especially if we run 2 such groups in the BGs, to practice!

[Tradesonred]

You guys should come try out the shadowbane emu while you wait on this, straight off the bat it seems better than DAOC.

Player cities you can build and destroy, better artwork (With creative races like minotaurs and man-birds called aracroix)

Only tried both games superficially though, but dunno, fort grinding over and over in DAOC at end game with 2 raid places or so (that i know of) didnt strike me as all its cracked up to be.

Look for that fully patched client torrent you know where

Then the steps to change server IP and tadam
http://shadowbaneemulator.com/forum/...hp?f=7&t=18573

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look for that fully patched client torrent you know where

Then the steps to change server IP and tadam
http://shadowbaneemulator.com/forum/...hp?f=7&t=18573

I went to their forum through the link you gave, and there's quite alot of ppl having problems of all kinds, ranging from having the wrong version of the game to not being able to log in, etc. That thread is ongoing 5 pages now, to this day alot of ppl aren't able to login.

Do you know which version of the game and patch they need specifically? You might want to make a thread for Shadowbane emu separately though, I just want to keep the info in this thread focused on it's topic, but it's an interesting project for sure and I'll keep an eye on it.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I went to their forum through the link you gave, and there's quite alot of ppl having problems of all kinds, ranging from having the wrong version of the game to not being able to log in, etc. That thread is ongoing 5 pages now, to this day alot of ppl aren't able to login.

Do you know which version of the game and patch they need specifically? You might want to make a thread for Shadowbane emu separately though, I just want to keep the info in this thread focused on it's topic, but it's an interesting project for sure and I'll keep an eye on it.

Thread is done already, just a little hijack cuz this one probably has more visitors.

People just dont know how to read, theres some authentification problems, just need to post in the "How to set up the game" thread that the server is down for you and they will clear you, i got cleared within the hour myself.

The client is called "fully patched shadowbane" or something on that site run by pirates

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As for DAOC its just that i didnt see what else there is to do end game beside that? Grinding rank and the 2 dungeons... or crafting?