Spells: Resist issue since patch thread

[Haynar]

Should healing recourses be dispellable? Whats classic?

What about lifetaps? Any other issues besides not healing for full?

H

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Offense taken.

What class you play?

I'm a monk..and I have a warrior alt! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's an iksar necro on red.

High crimes of tricking Sundawg into making a guard (Ledshin) npc have a chance to spawn as either see invis or not see invis. This is also a great example of how people treat the evidence that IS available to suit their interests!

There is literally no other guard or in town NPC in the game that has a chance to either be see invis or not.

Some people think that there were literally no see invis npcs in any town.

Well... to them I'd say they never tried to make it through Freeport or Qeynos as a lowbie evil race back in the day.

(Fix that gatdayum necro healing recourse being dispellable god plz)

Don't start this shit again. I know you like to shit up bug threads with drama but please stop.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should healing recourses be dispellable? Whats classic?

Should not be able to dispel recourse on necro heal. Since there was NOTHING in the one necro healing guide that was found about dispelling it, or anywhere else on the internet aside from when it was broken and quickly fixed... a botb necro champion from live came here and confirmed that it COULD NOT be dispelled. Period. Maybe its because of faster internet or google or everyone is suddenly better at EverQuest now or something, you guys can dream up any reasons you like that suddenly it should work differently.

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really.

Yeah that's why its true and changed here. Not sure what line of thinking some of you follow.

Can't imagine trying to find a classic EQ server and making up bold faced lies or abusing something, knowing better and not reporting it.

My favorite quote is that charm was not used on heavy hitting mobs until Dire Charm. One would HOPE that would ring a few bells.

[Scrubosaur]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should not be able to dispel recourse on necro heal. Since there was NOTHING in the one necro healing guide that was found about dispelling it, or anywhere else on the internet aside from when it was broken and quickly fixed... a botb necro champion from live came here and confirmed that it COULD NOT be dispelled. Period. Maybe its because of faster internet or google or everyone is suddenly better at EverQuest now or something, you guys can dream up any reasons you like that suddenly it should work differently.



Yeah that's why its true and changed here. Not sure what line of thinking some of you follow.

Can't imagine trying to find a classic EQ server and making up bold faced lies or abusing something, knowing better and not reporting it.

My favorite quote is that charm was not used on heavy hitting mobs until Dire Charm. One would HOPE that would ring a few bells.

hear·say
ˈhi(ə)rˌsā/
noun
information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
the report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law.

Can pretty much attach this to 90% of what Nirgon posts.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah that's why its true and changed here. Not sure what line of thinking some of you follow.

Can't imagine trying to find a classic EQ server and making up bold faced lies or abusing something, knowing better and not reporting it.

My favorite quote is that charm was not used on heavy hitting mobs until Dire Charm. One would HOPE that would ring a few bells.

The "not really" was in response to "know what I'm talking about." With 15k posts on threads that I normally visit, you should know what positions that I have taken or at least not lump me into things. I think half your posts replying to me mention Sirran for some reason.

You're also taking the charm quote of mine out of context. Saying that it took Dire Charm for most enchanters to realize the power of charm doesn't mean that some players didn't realize this prior to dire charm.

I don't understand your need to troll bug forums though.

Haynar - as far as recourse goes, I don't know. There's some good information on the prior thread on this. What I do know is that if you had full buff slots, you could cast shadowbond or pact of shadow on a target and the recourse would not take hold on you.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Scrubosaur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hear·say
ˈhi(ə)rˌsā/
noun
information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
the report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law.

Can pretty much attach this to 90% of what Nirgon posts.

To be fair, at least a couple of the exceptions to the hearsay rule would probably apply to a (good) classic-era guide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[karsten]

Haynar, people are getting lifetaps on green mobs resisted. I have no problem with you trying to work on resists, but A: it's getting fucked up and B: you're not telling anyone what you're doing before you do it.

So, now, on any given day, I log my chanter on and think "welp, i'll either be ok today, or i'll eat shit. Sorta depends on what Haynar's got going on today"

[Cenyan]

All I know is, I completely stopped playing my enchanter because of too many resists (in group and solo). I felt like I was worthless in a group because Mez would resist 2/3 times on blues and I have not played on P99 long so I don't have the uber twinked gear to survive those resists. I started a necro and now I'm getting lifetapped resists on green mobs and (ocasionally, maybe 1/15 mobs) i'm getting 5 darkness resists in a row to a mob 8 levels lower. Something needs to be done.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should healing recourses be dispellable? Whats classic?

What about lifetaps? Any other issues besides not healing for full?

H

To start, there weren't many things that were not dispell able. I think Rez effects were the only thing.

It would be understandable that the detrimental effect to a very efficient heal would be required but I could also see people not thinking of dispell/posting it.

If evidence comes up that says "you cannot dispell the recourse" or something like that, nerf it. The evidence that is included in the necro heal guide just neglects to mention it.

July 2002

The Shadowbond series of spells can no longer be dispelled by the Necromancer.

Would be tough to argue against this IMO. Clearly states that the fix to dispelling was in Luclin.

Issue on lifetaps is them resisting on green mobs. They should basically be pretty damn close to unresistable outside of Magic immune style mobs I think.

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should not be able to dispel recourse on necro heal. Since there was NOTHING in the one necro healing guide that was found about dispelling it, or anywhere else on the internet aside from when it was broken and quickly fixed...

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.