Paris Has Just Been Culturally Enriched

[Mac Drettj]

prophet mohamMAD is a faggot

AMIRITE?

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go get em retti

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Sounds like feminism.

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/10/the_...ium=socialflow

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http://www.salon.com/2015/01/10/the_...ium=socialflow

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAO8oc93UVQ

Simple example of how Muslim's cannot agree amongst themselves about the interpretation of their own religion. This chick is MAD.

But to think this is a strictly Muslim issue is shortsighted and ignorant.

I live in NYC - one of the most culturally diverse populaces on this planet. I'm a white American male of western European descent - who, by the logic of many people, should have no friends of Muslim background, because they all should hate me. It's simply not true. I have many Muslim friends. They are all wonderful and peaceful people. We've learned a lot from each other.

I hear many peaceful Muslim people across multiple outlets claiming that all Muslims should not be painted with the broad strokes of extremism, and that Muslims are an inherently peace-loving people. I would tend to agree with this, based on my own personal experience.

...but therein lies the problem, and the crux of the argument with many of the people on either side of this. My personal experience is in no way a representation of the world in it's entirety. Neither is yours.

While it's beautiful that some of us non-Muslims have welcomed in to our lives, and have been welcomed by Muslims, unfortunately, our experiences fly directly in the face of the literal foundations of the Muslim religion. Lying, stealing, and murder are all acceptable practices toward non-Muslims, under the literal representation of the Muslim holy book. In a nutshell, the Qur'an's attitude toward non-Muslims is to convert or die. If you're a peaceful moderate Muslim, or a sympathizer, hearing this may anger you, because knowing it angers me as well, but I implore you to continue reading.

You and I may have personal experience with Muslims who do not adhere to such deplorable values, the same way a large percentage of the world does. As well, a large percentage of the world has experience with Christians that are non-homophobic, because they recognize blind intolerance has no place in a modern world, despite what their Bible literally says.

The list goes on, of those who claim to adhere to a religion, but are so loose in it's translation and application as they deem it convenient to their modern lives - that they may need to reevaluate whether their religious affiliations are valid, or if it's simply tradition of their parents and their parents' parents, lest they remain too simple to understand that the literal orthodox teachings of all religions are outmoded, and obsolete for the modern, intelligent world we now live in.

The question, then, is why do the ones who claim the words in their holy books are no longer able to be accepted literally, still also claim to be a follower of the religion from which the books derive their twisted logic? This is hypocrisy rooted in fear, the same fear of an imaginary god that spawned religions as means of political control thousands of years ago. It's the single most dangerous ignorance we face as humans.

tl;dr: Too many people claiming to be followers of a religion simply because they go and pray to some false idol in a fancy building with other sheep once a week. When it comes to religion, you're either all in or all out, and if you call yourself a "moderate", you're NOT all in. Time to evolve.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Blasted [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAO8oc93UVQ

Simple example of how Muslim's cannot agree amongst themselves about the interpretation of their own religion. This chick is MAD.

But to think this is a strictly Muslim issue is shortsighted and ignorant.

I live in NYC - one of the most culturally diverse populaces on this planet. I'm a white American male of western European descent - who, by the logic of many people, should have no friends of Muslim background, because they all should hate me. It's simply not true. I have many Muslim friends. They are all wonderful and peaceful people. We've learned a lot from each other.

I hear many peaceful Muslim people across multiple outlets claiming that all Muslims should not be painted with the broad strokes of extremism, and that Muslims are an inherently peace-loving people. I would tend to agree with this, based on my own personal experience.

Those people may be good people, but they are bad at being Muslims. In order to be a 'good Muslim' you need to be what we in the west consider to be a 'bad person'.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"


Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

There is no two ways about it. This isn't like arguing against Christianity who at least have the new testament to fall back on even though they love to cite the old to excuse their bigotry. The Quran IS their new testament.

Heck, it even has a verse or two specifically about your so called 'peaceful Muslims'

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"

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Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those people may be good people, but they are bad at being Muslims. In order to be a 'good Muslim' you need to be what we in the west consider to be a 'bad person'.


There is no two ways about it. This isn't like arguing against Christianity who at least have the new testament to fall back on even though they love to cite the old to excuse their bigotry. The Quran IS their new testament.

Heck, it even has a verse or two specifically about your so called 'peaceful Muslims'

Kaga I think its about time you learned to read.

[GradnerLives]

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It's a rag of a website for sure, but this article really reminded me of you, bud. Should take a read.