Bin Laden's dead

[Japan]

lol @ libarts ivy leaguer conflating starting salary with intelligence and success.

come back when you've done anything but ride the coattails of your above-average high school performance and have proven you can do intellectual heavy lifting a real field. Until then, thank your lucky fucking stars we live in a society with a exaggerated enough division of labor that it manages to support an entire class of empty suits stuffed with cash and degrees with words like "jewish studies" on them.

[Ozudin]

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, someone's jelly. Let me break it down to you like a child.

Firstly, the contention had nothing to do with intelligence. Rather, it was about education. But let me guess: an Ivy League school has nothing to do with education, either -- am I right? I know man, I know. You went to community college because the man wanted to keep you down. But books are just books, anyway. Ivy League doesn't mean anything. Besides, you can totally quad-kite. I get it dude. One day you're breaking out of that McDonald's. Just you wait, world. But in the mean time, do me a favor. Don't forget the ketchup.

And since you're so concerned with intelligence, let's move on to that.
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/ps/Frey.pdf

SAT scores are highly correlated with both IQ scores and general intelligence. Average SAT score among those admitted to Ivy League schools, undergrad: ~1450/1600. Average SAT score: 1016. And to address your adorable concerns about class-based advantages, the average SAT score for the highest income bracket -- households with annual income of over $200,000 -- was 1142. Meaning even your upper-class college applicants are ~ 300 points short of Ivy League averages. So yes: you need to be smart (read: very, very smart) to be accepted to an Ivy League university. This was obvious to everyone who, you know, reads -- but hey: literacy has got nothing to do with intelligence, either.

To recap: you took a thread that had nothing to do with intelligence and still managed to make yourself look like a dumbass. Keep going, pal. This is going to turn out really well for you. I can feel it.

I don't have a college degree, and never will more than likely. I'm still smart enough to tell your a fucking prick though. I don't care if you end up making ten times more than I do, you are still obviously failing at life.

[Extunarian]

Alternatively:

lol @ libarts ivy leaguer thinking he's going to prove anything to anyone in the rants and flames section of a niche video game message board

Some things they just can't teach you in school.

[Japan]

we could change the world, man

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol @ libarts ivy leaguer conflating starting salary with intelligence and success.

come back when you've done anything but ride the coattails of your above-average high school performance and have proven you can do intellectual heavy lifting a real field. Until then, thank your lucky fucking stars we live in a society with a exaggerated enough division of labor that it manages to support an entire class of empty suits stuffed with cash and degrees with words like "jewish studies" on them.

Er, there was no conflation. If you're going to talk about intellectual heavy-lifting, at least do some intellectual push-ups to warm yourself up. You know, simple stuff. Like reading the posts you're responding to. If you did that, you'd have realized that any discussion regarding starting salary had nothing to do with intelligence, and the nebulous concept of "success" was never discussed at all. Have no fear: I'll help.

Point A: Ivy League has nothing to do with intelligence.
Counter-point: Ivy League requirement: average SAT scores >/= 1450. SAT score shows very high correlation to IQ tests, general intelligence tests.

Point B: Ivy League is a sham; it's all about prestige, selectivity.
Counter-point: Partially correct. Prestige = higher starting salary, higher long-term income. But it's also about education. Better, higher education = higher starting salary, higher long-term income.

Do not conflate the points.

[Cyrano]

What is "racial status"?

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is "racial status"?

Michael Jackson took that one to the grave.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Er, there was no conflation. If you're going to talk about intellectual heavy-lifting, at least do some intellectual push-ups to warm yourself up. You know, simple stuff. Like reading the posts you're responding to. If you did that, you'd have realized that any discussion regarding starting salary had nothing to do with intelligence, and the nebulous concept of "success" was never discussed at all. Have no fear: I'll help.

Point A: Ivy League has nothing to do with intelligence.
Counter-point: Ivy League requirement: average SAT scores >/= 1450. SAT score shows very high correlation to IQ tests, general intelligence tests.

Point B: Ivy League is a sham; it's all about prestige, selectivity.
Counter-point: Partially correct. Prestige = higher starting salary, higher long-term income. But it's also about education. Better, higher education = higher starting salary, higher long-term income.

Do not conflate the points.

I would consider you someone who was intelligent at one point in his life, but seeing as you're majoring in law the extent of your intellect will be wasted bailing out some Fortune 500 when they get caught cooking the books. Regardless of what your SAT score was, or what prestigious school you've managed to squirm your way into, when all is said in done you're miring everything you learned to exploit money out of written law.

Congrats bro at your sub-standard ethical integrity, which is fairly apparent by your narcissistic need to boast your school's Alma mater as some intellectual triumph

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would consider you someone who was intelligent at one point in his life, but seeing as you're majoring in law the extent of your intellect will be wasted bailing out some Fortune 500 when they get caught cooking the books. Regardless of what your SAT score was, or what prestigious school you've managed to squirm your way into, when all is said in done you're miring everything you learned to exploit money out of written law.

Congrats bro at your sub-standard ethical integrity, which is fairly apparent by your narcissistic need to boast your school's Alma mater as some intellectual triumph

Haha, I'm not boasting. Someone refused to accept happiness over Osama's death, claiming that anyone happy about it must be -- and I quote -- "uneducated". All I said was that I graduated from an Ivy League university and am currently attending law school. Clearly, I am educated. It's not debatable, it's not boastful, it's not arrogant. It's just a fact. A couple people still went ape-shit over it, though. I'm playing defense, not puffing my chest. If you don't think it's worth it, good for you -- don't attend. I'm not sending out pamphlets. All I'm doing is pointing out that some/all of the criticisms thus far have been flatly untrue.

As to the morality of being a lawyer, whatever. If you don't want to be one, don't be one. But if you ever get wrongfully arrested or sued, I suggest you hire one.

[purist]

Originally Posted by Turtles

SAT score shows very high correlation to parental income.

Fixed