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Old 09-25-2014, 12:14 PM
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More on gene regulation:

Organisms can even change sexes by making use of gene regulation. Here is an interesting article from the NYT showing sex changes in fish are common:

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/12/04/sc...nd-common.html

"WHEN a school of reef fish loses its single male, the largest female begins acting like a male within a few hours and will produce sperm within 10 days. Some other species repeatedly switch back and forth between the production of eggs and of sperm during a single mating. Among deep sea fish that only rarely encounter potential mates, reproduction is often possible only if one changes sex.

Such opportunistic sex changes in fish, once thought to be a rare oddity, are proving far more common than supposed. Conversions from female to male are now known to occur in species belonging to at least 14 families, while conversions from male to female are known in eight families."
Still the same animal coward

No new never before seen family of animals magically sprout into existence in this example either. No new, never before seen genetic code is magically being written spontaneously by random chance.

Not Darwinian Evolution
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:59 PM
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As someone who studied cell biology for 4 years I'll just call you retarded and be happy with it. Also the word you are looking g for is epigenetics.
Ps. Best troll thread 2014
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:48 PM
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As someone who studied cell biology for 4 years I'll just call you retarded and be happy with it. Also the word you are looking g for is epigenetics.
Ps. Best troll thread 2014
So then you then understand how complex a cell actually is. How did such complexity organize and build itself from dirt, or some primordial goo? It's basically it's own little microscopic city powered by super computers. How did such complexity organize itself without any intelligence to guide it? Did the computer you used to type your buffoonery build itself?

I'll ask you the same questions, since you seem to want to take a stab at it

How did DNA write itself from Nothing

How did even the most basic proteins organize themselves from pure randomness. You know the mathematical odds right? Zero. These proteins have to be organized from a specific sequence with a variety of different amino acids to choose from. This requires very specific instructions. It's an impossibility that such complexity could arrange itself by pure random chance.

Epigenetics is also working within EXISTING genetic code. Where is the evidence it creates never before seen complex life forms or genetic code? Explain how epigenetics writes new DNA that works in absolute harmony with existing DNA. It's a hereditary process. An environmental and behavioral process. Breeding. Traits within an existing kind that can be reversed through behavior. On and off switches. It doesn't create a new type/kind/form of animal. Not Macro-Evolution.

Nobody is disputing variations within existing genetic code. I'm asking for one example of entirely new, never before seen genetic code that creates a never before seen kind/type of life form. Show me all the Transitional Forms that should exist if Darwinian Macro Evolution is proven testable science.

I'm actually surprised you brought it up, since it actually hurts your cause instead of helping it. The changes that are made within existing kinds/types can actually be reversed which puts the entire process back to square one. In other words, it hinders the Natural Selection process. It doesn't help it.
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:50 PM
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this is u, just calm down ffs

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Old 09-25-2014, 02:11 PM
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this is u, just calm down ffs

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You're one post shy of 1100 posts outside RnF since April

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Old 09-25-2014, 02:17 PM
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Complexity arose with time. In my opinion it started with a piece of self replicating rna and got more complex from there.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:32 PM
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You're one post shy of 1100 posts outside RnF since April

lol
yeah cus I contribute, you dip shit. Every one of those posts is either to help someone with a problem, show a sweet gif screen shot of classic EQ, or post information about using text triggers or playing a class

oh yea, and selling my fucking 7337 ass motherfuckn solo kill loot in EC.

you have 1,100 fucking posts, IN THIS THREAD.

so please. Take a step back, and fuck your face.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:40 PM
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Complexity arose with time. In my opinion it started with a piece of self replicating rna and got more complex from there.
How did RNA build itself from nothing?

As time goes on things become less organized, especially information. It's one the fundamental laws governing the entire Universe.

Time doesn't write genetic code. How did RNA write DNA? DNA is a very specific code. Precise instructions. How did "self replicating RNA" write this code? Also, are you claiming to have the answer to abiogenesis and how all life started from a single source? Can you reproduce this in a lab? Do you have peered reviewed papers you have written? Observable testable results? Where's your proof?

How did one self replicating RNA become something as complex as a cell? How did self replicating RNA create the ATP synthase molecule, where all parts would have been needed to be present (at the exact same time) and ordered/structured in a precise way in order for it to function properly? Remember, this is a motor with several moving parts more complex than anything man has yet to produce. How did self replicating RNA build that?

I thought you studied this shit for 4 years?
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:42 PM
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Hence you're retarded.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:44 PM
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Complexity arose with time. In my opinion it started with a piece of self replicating rna and got more complex from there.
I am guessing you are responding to G13 (he's on my ignore list). I wouldnt waste my time if I were you. This thread is basically 100+ pages of me correcting his bullshit just to have him repeat the same line that I corrected two pasts later.

Here is a great example of it:

"russian's been trying to make foxes a different species...still same foxes" -G13

My response...no, they are breeding two distinct lines of foxes. One is breed for aggression and the other is breed for non-aggression. It is a genetic study on how genes affect behavior.

"the foxes are still foxes" - G13

Lol, 100+ pages of argument just like that. Dont waste copious amounts of time like I did :P Some folks are just beyond help. He is either one of the dumbest individuals on planet earth or he is a troll of the highest degree.
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