VZTZ assimilated by Rogean

[Littlegyno]

Originally Posted by naez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

air pet give it some gnoll hide lariats and just chain dispell it /afk

I know, don't get me wrong, I dropped some nigs back in the day with a mage, it's great for ambushing and shit, but just about any competent player can outplay a mage or at the very least escape.

In the EMU incarnations of EQ, mages are much more powerful than they were during EQ Live.

[naez]

don't underestimate the air pet vs casters. It was v. difficult to fight mages on necro because pet would eat you up quickly along with the nukes and if you feared pet (long cast) it was insta dispelled.

the only winning strat was try to stack 2 dots harmshield and run away.

[Kringe]

Your delusional and are stuck on your current VZ/TZ lvl 50 era and No where near Live like as usual Naez....

See I played top end enchanter on RZ and could solo entire groups of people and did (About anyone from RZ here can attest to that). No one had Jacinth Rings or ANY Mr gear at all on live... You were lucky to have 7mr bracers if anyone invested in the heavily (Harder to make plat back then Jewel Crafting)
So you'll be sitting at a whopping 64mr or so with Shield on and their wasnt Crimson Pots back then.... Before your rebuttal comes in with a I will be buffed with soandso, On Live there were Egg Shaped Pummices, so that badically states you will be fighting a good enchanter with 0 buffs.... Mage pets on Live Did really shit dmg, even at 50 and could easily be aborbed by a Rune or a Quick Beserker Str.....

Like Gyno said, Mages bolts where LoS easily dodgeable, after Tash (Not even Egg Shape Pummice was needed) Nearly every mes landed (thats before they gave warriors an innate 25bonus MR also lets not forget) every Whirl landed, (Could fear players for quite sometime, and while feared nukes landed for full dmg, even if the enchanter nuke was ALL or none back then, with clarity they could keep one perma messed with Enthrall).. Only class That would give enchanters hugh issues was a well played necro with "Book Quest done" to stop messes..... Enchanters also had manasieve back then which would literally take any others casters mana in about 5-6 casts..


So Like i was saying, please dont use your references to anything as to which any version of VZ/TZ had, none were "Live Like" per se, which is what the topic of the conversation is referring too..

Kringe/Rigamortiz..

[naez]

Yea sorry Kringe I forgot how much different live was compared to box.

zonecmd and shit

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually if its classic both of those mages would be destroyed by 1 enchanter....

Kringe mad.

[Salty]

#1 box acker

huge celeb up in here.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by KilyenaMage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've playing classic EQ PvP together for what, 3 or 4 years? I would hope you'd be better at it than people who haven't played classic EQ PvP in 10 years.

Knuckle's crew is solid, don't be ignorant in public.

[Salty]

Wizard is not my playstyle at all, I did the best I could with what was available, but it's a handicapped class on vztz, picking your battle was never more true than on a wizard.

More times than not shadowstep was so overpowered it was ridiculous.


Once you shadowstep your character looks like he is still standing in the same spot, when in actuality it is ghosting server-side and you are running away while someone is standing next to your ghosted body wondering why it says "target too far."

Annoying shit.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Salty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Early game gonna be hella rough for melee on red99 bro.

Saltine is correct. Most melee don't even manage to get a resist above 50 until like lvl 45+ on EQ live PvP. Even if you use normal EQ resists where spells bounce virtually every time against 120 resist, most melees are still free kills this entire time.

TZVZ is nothing like EQ live. Besides the weighted axe (which should probably be removed), good 2handers are hard to find during Kunark. There were no Oggok cleavers on Sullon Zek, it was either removed from the game or was more rare than a Tstaff. Pretty sure Herbalist spade was added after SZ already came out too. It would also take MONTHS before you saw anyone with a Tstaff on a new server. The drop rate was either 1% or lower.

I didn't even see a felhammer drop until after months of killing stuff in Sebillis. So yea, if this is anything like EQ Live, even after 3-4 months, the average 55+ warrior would still be jousting with a piece of junk like an exe axe.

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saltine is correct. Most melee don't even manage to get a resist above 50 until like lvl 45+ on EQ live PvP. Even if you use normal EQ resists where spells bounce virtually every time against 120 resist, most melees are still free kills this entire time.

TZVZ is nothing like EQ live. Besides the weighted axe (which should probably be removed), good 2handers are hard to find during Kunark. There were no Oggok cleavers on Sullon Zek, it was either removed from the game or was more rare than a Tstaff. Pretty sure Herbalist spade was added after SZ already came out too. It would also take MONTHS before you saw anyone with a Tstaff on a new server. The drop rate was either 1% or lower.

I didn't even see a felhammer drop until after months of killing stuff in Sebillis. So yea, if this is anything like EQ Live, even after 3-4 months, the average 55+ warrior would still be jousting with a piece of junk like an exe axe.

Maybe this is true on VZTZ, however on THIS server I've seen SEVERAL Oggok Cleavers selling in EC...and a Tstaff as well.

Kunark has been out for 2 weeks.