Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your data isn’t bad. It is nonexistent (for the purpose and scope of this discussion).

You have yet to prove this claim.

If you want to ask people to prove a negative, then you need to prove your own parse data isn't simply photoshopped.

I can play this silly game too, but it goes nowhere.

If you want to claim my data isn't valid for the discussion, you need to prove the claim.

The other thing you are avoiding is this question: How do you determine your group sucked (which affects DPS), when all you have is some images of DPS data? If I provided DPS data using a group of the best players on the server, and they let me root/rot, wouldn't the data be "skewed" in a way that makes Shamans look even better? This is why your insistence on asking me for group DPS data is silly. It can skew heavily just based on the group, not on the class itself.

The videos I provided are the cleanest way to judge DPS differences between classes, and are immune to these outside variables such as your pet constantly dying due to bad group members.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have yet to prove this claim.

No. I present the above quoted post as evidence that you simply seemingly continue to misunderstand or are (intentionally or otherwise) misconstruing your level of understanding. I present the posts in this thread (and particularly the ones you have ignored, misunderstood, or [intentionally or otherwise] misconstrued your true understanding of) as evidence that this has been proven to you multiple times by multiple posts (from multiple posters) in this thread.

You seemingly do not understand that you ignoring irrefutable facts does not refute them, does not mean they do not exist and will not make them go away hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to ask people to prove a negative, then you need to prove your own parse data isn't simply photoshopped.

You have provided zero evidence that anybody else (such as Troxx) has asked people (such as you) to "prove a negative", so I am not sure what point you think you are making or why your post would seem to indicate that you believe this straw man you have built somehow makes your solo Shaman root rotting data relevant to a discussion that is specifically about Shaman vs Mage DPS in the context/setting/environment of a high level fast-paced killing DPS group hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can play this silly game too, but it goes nowhere. If you want to claim my data isn't valid for the discussion, you need to prove the claim.

The problem is your posts would imply that you have forgotten that you have already admitted - intentionally or otherwise hehe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] - that you are aware of the variables that exist when a character is played in a group.
You might have forgotten that you have (irrefutably) acknowledged the existence of these variables, but I have not forgotten, and will post a quote of it below for all to view. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If you have not forgotten about the below post that you made today, I am not sure why you are seemingly continuing to allude to the fact that you are unaware of these variables existence , or the fact that they - in your own words - "skew data", as if you have indeed forgotten. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to claim your data is valid for the discussion, it needs to be relevant data hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data

[PlsNoBan]

I wonder if I log on a 60 mage on a TLP and post a bunch of parses from that if it'll convince DSM. Apparently we can gather data under completely different conditions and it translates 1:1 to the conditions we're discussing. Why wouldn't this be the same?

[Jimjam]

Go outside and watch a sunset guys.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yes Karanis, the variables would effect Mages and Shamans lol. This really isn't hard. You could parse a Mage at 10 DPS if they keep dying. That doesn't mean Mages have 10 DPS.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes Karanis, the variables would effect Mages and Shamans lol.

You have provided zero evidence that other posters have claimed the variables would effect Mages and Shamans differently hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

You have provided zero evidence that the variables would effect Mages and Shamans the same hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

If you were not intending to imply (on the above quoted post) that other posters (such as Karanis, for example) have suggested/stated/claimed or otherwise implied that two particular classes (such as Mage and Shaman) would be affected equally by the aforementioned variables (which you have [intentionally otherwise] provided evidence that you are fully aware of) then I am not sure what point you think you are making. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could parse a Mage at 10 DPS if they keep dying. That doesn't mean Mages have 10 DPS.

You have provided zero evidence that parsing a Mage at 10 DPS somehow doesn't mean that Mage has performed 10 DPS.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data (which is a favored phrase around here). If your Enchanters suck and your Mage pet keeps dying, your Mage's DPS will suffer. That doesn't mean Mage DPS is actually that low. You just had bad luck with a group. Getting good group data that everybody can agree upon is tough. I can guarantee you even if I did provide what you are asking for, you would just say it isn't good enough. That is currently what you do with everything I provide anyway.

Again, I present the above quoted post as evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that there are variables which would effect DPS ("skew the data") if you were in a group with other players. Again, this is an irrefutable fact, which you cannot refute hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

Thank you for providing evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that your post/statement/comment/claim that "DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo" is in (irrefutable) fact, false. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

I don’t know why y’all still bother with DSM I’m just glad folks get to see his personality

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t know why y’all still bother with DSM I’m just glad folks get to see his personality

The only people exposing their personality are the trolls. They would rather insult than converse.

You are giving the people who literally just post insults/memes when someone disagrees with them a pass, because you yourself are trolling this thread.

It's not a good look, but most of your posts are just silly flexes on your bad Warder loot anyway.

[Karanis]

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