ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm only on page 100 or so of book 5 A Dance With Dragons.

Whatever happened to the whole thing with the red comet and the prophecies and whatnot? It was a big deal for a long time in the books but it's like it was dropped and forgotten by Martin. There's been no mention of the comet, no mention of any prophecies, nothing. I know Martin takes forever and a day to develop plots but he made a big deal of the comet in the sky then said nothing further about it for thousands of pages.

MrSparkle, i'm a casual reader who lurks this board to pick up tidbits from larger brain pans who enjoy both book and TV series. But, since you haven't heard from the smart set -- I think the comet is just a comet, and Martin uses it to show how people interpret signs and prophecies differently. If I HAD to ascribe plot importance to the comet, it would be dragons and magic making a comeback.

[Sirken]

the comet could mean a lot of things. in the book however, its one way for us to know where everyone is at a relatively exact moment in time. the book chapters can be minutes, days, or weeks apart. so when you finish a Jon chapter and move on to a Dany chapter, it doesnt mean that chapter picks up in the same minute that the previous chapter ended.

another use of the comet was to showcase different meanings it has to everyone, but also the similarities between some of those different meanings. it could be the return of dragons that Osha says, it could be Azor Azai is reborn, and it could just be a pretty comet. they could all be right, they could all be wrong, or some mixture in between.

but heres a question, why the F would Varys try to poison Dany in S1, if they were only going to cut Aegon and have Varys support Dany in the end, anyway. that makes no sense. unless they try to get clever and act like someone else (maybe Tywin) tried to poison Dany instead of Varys. unless... this is all a ruse.

[Mandalore93]

Varys knew that having amateurs do it would only lead to Drogo getting pissed as fuck and coming across the sea - something no Dothraki Khal has ever done. If he had really wanted it done then he could have gone a different means...as Littlefinger described to stupid Ned after the council meeting in the books.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the comet could mean a lot of things. in the book however, its one way for us to know where everyone is at a relatively exact moment in time. the book chapters can be minutes, days, or weeks apart. so when you finish a Jon chapter and move on to a Dany chapter, it doesnt mean that chapter picks up in the same minute that the previous chapter ended.

another use of the comet was to showcase different meanings it has to everyone, but also the similarities between some of those different meanings. it could be the return of dragons that Osha says, it could be Azor Azai is reborn, and it could just be a pretty comet. they could all be right, they could all be wrong, or some mixture in between.

but heres a question, why the F would Varys try to poison Dany in S1, if they were only going to cut Aegon and have Varys support Dany in the end, anyway. that makes no sense. unless they try to get clever and act like someone else (maybe Tywin) tried to poison Dany instead of Varys. unless... this is all a ruse.

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[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i mean you say that, but had Jorah not intervened, the mother of dragons would be worm food. Varys would have had to risk literally everything (by risking Dany's life) on the gamble that Jorah would step in to save her. just doesnt fit for me.

As far as the books go, once Young Griff appeared and Varys did that bit with Kevan, it seemed that he was definitely working towards "Aegon" being put on the throne. Who knows though, but at least from the text I don't get the impression that Dany is who him and Illyrio actually want on the throne.

I pretty much agree with you about the show. I don't know what they're doing with Varys. Gonna assume you didn't watch the leaked episodes, so I won't spoil anything. All I can say is we were right. They are definitely not going to spoil the plot of the remaining books. This season is completely different than what was happening contemporaneously in AFfC and ADwD.

If you watched the leaked episodes:

 

WTF did they do to Sansa. And Mance...... if that dude is really dead, they took out a major part of the books. I guess it makes sense since he wouldn't be needed to steal back "Arya," but seriously...

[Calabee]

So can we talk about the 4 episodes that are out right now

They all suck, season 5 is huge fail so far

[Safon]

Originally Posted by Calabee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They all suck, season 5 is huge fail so far

The entire series pales heavily in comparison to the books

[Pokesan]

Here's how season 5 ends folks.

Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.

[wts]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's how season 5 ends folks.

Show was accurate with Tywin's death, why wouldn't they get that scene right?

[Mandalore93]

Show wise, all the writers need to do is say that Varys wrote ser friend zone to stop it.