ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[wts]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRKFD0rbZBQ

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by wts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRKFD0rbZBQ

I really liked this episode. And so, I disagree in silence with some of your snarkier comments. But its 6 o'clock in the morning and i'm smiling pretty hard. Had not seen these reviews before. Thanks very much for the link. Awesome!

[Sirken]

this whole season just has me in a weird numb feeling. some stuff i love and some stuff i hate and some stuff makes no sense. im not gonna judge the season until Eps 9 & 10. we all know whats coming, and if they pull it off, it will redeem the season for them.

[citizen1080]

I don't even pay attention to if its following the books or not anymore...I just enjoy it for what it is. The walking dead meets frozen.

[Sirken]

every time i see a grey worm and missandei romance scene, i sit back and think of all the shit they cut from the book because they didnt have enough time.

lets forget the books for a minute, varys still tried to have dany killed in season one. now all of a sudden since D&D decided to cut connington and aegon, varys just magically has been supporting dany?

dont get me started on Barristan.

but in happier news, it looks like they are casting for Euron Greyjoy next season [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[wts]

Yeah it's been brutal. Whole season was a waste of air until episode 8. Next two should be fun. It would be really hard for them to screw it up but we'll see. If there's not a book out before next season, just forget it. D&D fanfic for 10 episodes. Preston's episode reviews have been great comic relief at least.

[Sirken]

two episodes left. what all do we think is gonna go down?

i expect we'll see ramsay try to attack stannis with those 20 men, (cause why not). i imagine that will fail however, for one reason or another. i cant imagine Ramsay dying here. also looks like everything with the pink letter has been cut as well, since that involves fake arya and mance rayder (assuming you believe that Mance wrote the pink letter). clearly i dont think stannis will die as im convinced stannis will be the 1,000th lord commander of the nights watch.

im very curious to see how they are going to release Loras and Margaery, since Loras wasnt arrested and Margaery didnt pinched for perjury. in the book, Margaery was essentially arrested for being a whore, and because the evidence is so weak, Margaery is released to Randyll Tarly.

HBO isnt gonna let Arya be Merci the Whore, so if Meryn Trant dies, it will be by the hands of what should be Cat of the Canals.

that little kid at the wall (Olly) is going to stab the shit out of jon snow.

Cersei body double gonna get some work, and we're gonna see Sir Robert Strong. i still think Robert Strong will have Robb Starks head in book. maybe not so much in the show.

Dany scenes, im expecting a bunch of dumb bullshit until ep10 when Drogon shows up at the fighting pits due to the smell of blood and the sounds of the commotion.

speaking of Ep10, its called "Mother's Mercy", and thats interesting because thats another name for Lady Stoneheart. and each ep10 title has to do with the final scene of the episode.

[holahouze]

The first thing that flashed for me when Ramsay suggested the Seal team 6 attack was that would provide Sansa a path to escape. Would really have liked a scene where Reek/Theon was in the Godswood so Bran could whisper his name, but i expect Theon will aid Sansa, and they will end up giving Brienne something to do. Thus, I do not think the pink letter is out of play. I'm also very weirded out by the thought of a Brienne - Stannis get together.

The preview showed Stannis camp in flames (i think), so Ramsay will do some damage. Maybe Ramsay kills/captures Shireen, which will ramp things up.

Littlefinger's gift to Oleanna was a means to free Loras and Margarey. I'm guessing Olyvar will confess to HS that Cersei paid him to lie/testify against them. He will seek forgiveness (and be rewarded), and they will be freed. Or, Olyvar will be made to disappear and not be available to testify formally.

Arya will probably see Trant in pursuing her oyster eating insurance man. The question is, will she use the poison on Trant or carry out the insurance man hit? I think the Rafford/Trant murder will not be missed by the FM which will lead to an Arya transition.

Btw, Mace will get shot down my IB. And, given how quickly news seems to get around, what are the chances Mace has not heard of Loras and Margery's charges/detainment? Neither GRRM, nor showrunners, pass an opportunity to show Mace as dumber than a bag of hammers.

Olly is going to be one of the brothers saying "for the Watch". It would be a big showrunner curveball, if not. I think Jon will see him strike. I expect this to happen in the last ep. I'm very curious to see whether the NW is motivated by Jon's acceptance and working with Wildings, or because Jon wants to go to Winterfell (pink letter). And, here again for me is disappointment in the show losing track of the kid's direwolves and ability to warg. So, somehow, Melissandre is going to have to get back to the wall -- right? Maybe after Ramsay's hit. Btw, what if it was proximity to Jon that increased Mel's powers, not just the wall itself?

Cersei will do her walk this season. This is tracking pretty close to book, i think. Robert Strong may come next season.

Yes to the Dany scenes. There is a lot of plot tied up in Tyron's education/counsel to Dany. Its got my attention. The fighting pit will be a mass Harpy ambush, Dany will be protected by Jorah/Tyrion/Drogon, and will fly. Jorah and Tyrion will be left to sort it out - perhaps be captured - setting up a Dany rescue next season.

I just don't see Lady Stoneheart this season, nor any other. The Ghost of High Heart's prophecies were the only ones that got my attention.

But, you haven't mentioned Dorne. At some point, something meaningful has to break there. Who is Doran threatening in that preview?? My first impression was he is revealing his plans and getting buy-in from Ellaria. She takes on Arianne's role. but, what of Jamie and Bronn?? Neither fit a short term character arc like Darkstar and Oakheart? This storyline has been messed up to a fare-the-well. I would not be surprised if Trystane is revealed to be Aegon. Lot of moms question marks in this series, you know?

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first thing that flashed for me when Ramsay suggested the Seal team 6 attack was that would provide Sansa a path to escape. Would really have liked a scene where Reek/Theon was in the Godswood so Bran could whisper his name, but i expect Theon will aid Sansa, and they will end up giving Brienne something to do. Thus, I do not think the pink letter is out of play. I'm also very weirded out by the thought of a Brienne - Stannis get together.

The preview showed Stannis camp in flames (i think), so Ramsay will do some damage. Maybe Ramsay kills/captures Shireen, which will ramp things up.

Littlefinger's gift to Oleanna was a means to free Loras and Margarey. I'm guessing Olyvar will confess to HS that Cersei paid him to lie/testify against them. He will seek forgiveness (and be rewarded), and they will be freed. Or, Olyvar will be made to disappear and not be available to testify formally.

Arya will probably see Trant in pursuing her oyster eating insurance man. The question is, will she use the poison on Trant or carry out the insurance man hit? I think the Rafford/Trant murder will not be missed by the FM which will lead to an Arya transition.

Btw, Mace will get shot down my IB. And, given how quickly news seems to get around, what are the chances Mace has not heard of Loras and Margery's charges/detainment? Neither GRRM, nor showrunners, pass an opportunity to show Mace as dumber than a bag of hammers.

Olly is going to be one of the brothers saying "for the Watch". It would be a big showrunner curveball, if not. I think Jon will see him strike. I expect this to happen in the last ep. I'm very curious to see whether the NW is motivated by Jon's acceptance and working with Wildings, or because Jon wants to go to Winterfell (pink letter). And, here again for me is disappointment in the show losing track of the kid's direwolves and ability to warg. So, somehow, Melissandre is going to have to get back to the wall -- right? Maybe after Ramsay's hit. Btw, what if it was proximity to Jon that increased Mel's powers, not just the wall itself?

Cersei will do her walk this season. This is tracking pretty close to book, i think. Robert Strong may come next season.

Yes to the Dany scenes. There is a lot of plot tied up in Tyron's education/counsel to Dany. Its got my attention. The fighting pit will be a mass Harpy ambush, Dany will be protected by Jorah/Tyrion/Drogon, and will fly. Jorah and Tyrion will be left to sort it out - perhaps be captured - setting up a Dany rescue next season.

I just don't see Lady Stoneheart this season, nor any other. The Ghost of High Heart's prophecies were the only ones that got my attention.

But, you haven't mentioned Dorne. At some point, something meaningful has to break there. Who is Doran threatening in that preview?? My first impression was he is revealing his plans and getting buy-in from Ellaria. She takes on Arianne's role. but, what of Jamie and Bronn?? Neither fit a short term character arc like Darkstar and Oakheart? This storyline has been messed up to a fare-the-well. I would not be surprised if Trystane is revealed to be Aegon. Lot of moms question marks in this series, you know?

agreed on the theon/ramsay/sansa arc. none of them will die, unless they kill theon, in a sacrifice himself to save sansa kinda way. the sealteam6 plan will fail. Brienne hates stannis. if brienne gets wild with stannis over the renly shit, brienne will die.

i love your baelish, cersei, olenna, olyvar theory. makes tons more sense than lancel, as i imagine the high sparrow already knew about lancel and cersei, hence the warning in ep 1.

Arya will kill trant, and be blinded as punishment (i hope), and her story for this season will should end there.

news doesnt travel terribly fast. in westeros it travels by raven, in essos the stories come with traveling sailors. ex: it seems no one in essos has heard of tywins death yet as both jorah and dany are surprised by it. even if mace knew, hes a fool. he'll go back to westeros empty handed. the iron bank is already thrown in their lot with stannis.

[Pringles]

re: rest of the season

All i can say is we better see some dragon fighting already, and more zombie / white walker battles!