Building a Mosque??? WTF

[Rasterburn]

Let's take a realistic look at the religion that some of you are defending...

Quote from a recent "Sharia law" case in Afghanistan:

"The court ruled that her nose and ears must be cut off. The act was carried out by her husband in the mountains of Oruzgan, where they left her to die."

Got it..? The court ruled this... not just some fringe area case of "bad Muslims." A fucking COURT declared that an innocent and beautiful young woman should be horribly and sadistically disfigured for life. No anesthesia, no pity, no human rights, no decency whatsoever... she was simply held down, whilst her own husband began slicing off parts of her face with a knife. I can not even imagine her agony and terror.

This is not some unusual or isolated case, either. These nasty little Sharia "courts" exist in every single Muslim-ruled nation on this planet. We can dig up thousands and thousands of examples of Muslim backwardness and brutality, by doing a simple Google search. At its core, Islam is an evil religion controlled by equally evil people. Period. That's not an opinion -- it's a tragic fact.

Let's take an even closer look. Here's just a few images of the MILLIONS of victims of Muslim law:

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...but by all means, let's be tolerant of Islam. They've certainly been tolerant of us and.... oh, wait. 9/11... right. I forgot. And the kidnapping and beheadings of non-Muslims. Forgot about them, too. Oh and the numerous suicide bombers who routinely blow civilians apart in Israel, Spain, Indonesia and elsewhere. We forgot about them, too.

Fuck tolerance. I don't tolerate a black widow spider... I squash it when I see it. I don't plead with it to be a good little spider and stop poisoning people, nor do I try to appease it. And I understand that the black widow spider can't help being nasty and potentially dangerous... but that's kind of the whole point, is it not..?

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's take a realistic look at the religion that some of you are defending...

Quote from a recent "Sharia law" case in Afghanistan:

"The court ruled that her nose and ears must be cut off. The act was carried out by her husband in the mountains of Oruzgan, where they left her to die."

Got it..? The court ruled this... not just some fringe area case of "bad Muslims." A fucking COURT declared that an innocent and beautiful young woman should be horribly and sadistically disfigured for life. No anesthesia, no pity, no human rights, no decency whatsoever... she was simply held down, whilst her own husband began slicing off parts of her face with a knife. I can not even imagine her agony and terror.

This is not some unusual or isolated case, either. These nasty little Sharia "courts" exist in every single Muslim-ruled nation on this planet. We can dig up thousands and thousands of examples of Muslim backwardness and brutality, by doing a simple Google search. At its core, Islam is an evil religion controlled by equally evil people. Period. That's not an opinion -- it's a tragic fact.

Let's take an even closer look. Here's just a few images of the MILLIONS of victims of Muslim law:

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...but by all means, let's be tolerant of Islam. They've certainly been tolerant of us and.... oh, wait. 9/11... right. I forgot. And the kidnapping and beheadings of non-Muslims. Forgot about them, too. Oh and the numerous suicide bombers who routinely blow civilians apart in Israel, Spain, Indonesia and elsewhere. We forgot about them, too.

Fuck tolerance. I don't tolerate a black widow spider... I squash it when I see it. I don't plead with it to be a good little spider and stop poisoning people, nor do I try to appease it. And I understand that the black widow spider can't help being nasty and potentially dangerous... but that's kind of the whole point, is it not..?

Some picture examples of Eurocentric-Christian brutality:

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The point is, people regardless of race, religion or creed will act out violently to those they deem "inferior" which could be anything from the color of your skin, what you are born as, or the way you think and act.

It's a dark deep smudge on our existence that we sadistically torture others for no other benefit than to see them suffer, and we've always had the drive and as I said it's a shame because not even the most aggressive of carnivores in the animal kingdom behave this way... We are a despicable class all on our own living in a world of classical music, rape and ultraviolence,

[Lazortag]

Rasterburn is an idiot. Just because a "court" decided something doesn't mean that moderate islam is automatically brutal and evil. That really was his only argument. A "court" ruled it so that proves that even their "moderates" are crazy scimitar-wielding, uncivilized brutes.

In this historical moment there are a lot of widely-documented human rights violations being committed by muslims. If you're completely ignorant you'll automatically deduce that these crimes were committed because Islam is an inherently evil religion, or somehow moreso evil than other religions. I guess this is possible, but really unlikely - it's not clear how Islamic canon is any more evil than Christian canon (have you ever read Deuteronomy? Holy fuck, there's even a passage that encourages taking women as prisoners of war and marrying them without their consent), suggesting that there should be an equal number of Christian terrorists as well. In science we're told that when you have the same stimulus, you should get the same response. So maybe there's something else that causes such a high number of Muslim terrorists (note that I'm not even sure that Muslim terrorists are in the majority, because as I mentioned before (and was completely ignored), the Tamil Tigers commit the most suicide bombings and aren't Muslim). Maybe Muslim-majority countries are just poorer than non-Muslim countries, or maybe Islam just has more "revolutionary appeal" than other religions (similar to how Marxism had revolutionary appeal for many anti-colonial nationalists in Africa, who identified as Marxists even though their beliefs weren't exactly Marxist (like the ANC in South Africa, or ZANU in Zimbabwe)). I guess a crazy conservative like Rasterturd would probably argue that Marxist thought also leads to terrorist activity based on these historical examples, but if you have half a brain, you'll know that this just isn't a cogent explanation and doesn't take into account all of the factors involved.

As I said before, while there may be a lot of terrorism committed by people who identify as Muslims, that doesn't mean that Islamic thought is an efficient condition for terrorism. Between 700-1200 AD the majority of discoveries in science, medicine and mathematics were made by Muslims, and the most egregious rights violations were committed by Christians. They were the civil ones back then. Why would it be any different now, if Islam is simply "inherently evil"? It's just not a sound explanation.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...but by all means, let's be tolerant of Islam. They've certainly been tolerant of us and.... oh, wait. 9/11... right. I forgot. And the kidnapping and beheadings of non-Muslims. Forgot about them, too. Oh and the numerous suicide bombers who routinely blow civilians apart in Israel, Spain, Indonesia and elsewhere. We forgot about them, too.

Also, I love how Rasterburn has totally figured out the Israeli-Palestinian conflict all by himself.

[purist]

Rasterburn would definitely be an Islamist jihadist if he was born on the other side of the world. I mean, just replace everytime he says the word "Islam" with "America" and you have Osama bin Laden right there.

Originally Posted by Rasterburn

...but by all means, let's be tolerant of [America]. They've certainly been tolerant of us and.... oh, wait. [the invasion and military occupations in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine]... right. I forgot. And the [kidnappings, assassinations and indefinite detention] of [our Muslim brothers]. Forgot about them, too. Oh and the numerous [bombings, shooting and indiscriminate murder] who routinely blow civilians apart in [Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan] and elsewhere. We forgot about them, too.

Fuck tolerance. I don't tolerate a black widow spider... I squash it when I see it. I don't plead with it to be a good little spider and stop poisoning people, nor do I try to appease it. And I understand that the black widow spider can't help being nasty and potentially dangerous... but that's kind of the whole point, is it not..?

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rasterburn would definitely be an Islamist jihadist if he was born on the other side of the world. I mean, just replace everytime he says the word "Islam" with "America" and you have Osama bin Laden right there.

Being one of the few people who visit this board who practices Islam, we all don't go around screaming Hakaam! Hakaam! I'm muslim but I drink, I smoke the drugs, and I have sexual relations with women outside of marriage..,

You know why? Cause I'm no more of an extremist than anyone that attends the Presbyterian church down the street, and I'm sorry to inform you not everyone that goes to that church is a Phelps or Conwell clone.

[...Raren]

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Raren and Abacab are going to take over Norrath

[Abacab niggah]

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Raren and Abacab are going to take over Norrath

They're Abacab and Raren
Yes, Abacab and Raren
One is trollin'
The other's causin' trains.
They've been banned at least twice
Their proxies have been iced
They're Arab
They're Abacab and Raren, Raren, Raren, Raren, Raren, Raren.

Before each night is done
Their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun
They'll take over the world.

They're Abacab and Raren
Yes, Abacab and Raren
Their R&F campaign
Is easy to explain.
To prove their always right

They'll argue through the night
They're Arab
They're Abacab and Raren, Raren, Raren, Raren, Raren, Raren.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Abacab *****h [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being one of the few people who visit this board who practices Islam, we all don't go around screaming Hakaam! Hakaam! I'm muslim but I drink, I smoke the drugs, and I have sexual relations with women outside of marriage..,

You know why? Cause I'm no more of an extremist than anyone that attends the Presbyterian church down the street, and I'm sorry to inform you not everyone that goes to that church is a Phelps or Conwell clone.

I don't think anyone is actually saying that every single Muslim, ever, is evil.

What I am saying, however, is that their laws are STILL fucking backwards to this day.

You can't compare 2010 to the Inquisition, Crusades, Salem witch trials, etc.. That's apples to oranges.

Compare 2010 to 2010 and you'll be making a much more valid point.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think anyone is actually saying that every single Muslim, ever, is evil.

What I am saying, however, is that their laws are STILL fucking backwards to this day.

You can't compare 2010 to the Inquisition, Crusades, Salem witch trials, etc.. That's apples to oranges.

Compare 2010 to 2010 and you'll be making a much more valid point.

What are "their laws"? Again, you claim not to be generalizing, but then you generalize in the next line. Even Sharia Law isn't something static - it's a system that changes substantially depending on where it's applied. You won't find one codified version of sharia law that's used everywhere - you probably won't even find one that's used in more than one place.

The problem isn't that Islamic law is uniquely "evil" - it's that any non-secular legal system is unjust, and you just happen to find more theocracies that are Islamic in the world today than you find theocracies of other religions.

The most frustrating thing about this thread is that the people opposed to the building of the mosque can't even formulate a decent argument. Please do us all a favor and structure your post like this for clarity's sake: "I don't support the building of the mosque [or their right to build the mosque] because "__________". Fill in the blank for me.