If you believe in god, you're an idiot... - Page 18

chtulu · #**171** 01-15-2011, 01:36 AM

What people are not understanding is that religion itself is a handicap on people's perspective of the world as well as their ability to "think outside the bun(had to since fourthmeal isn't ringing in this thread).".

Look at the U.S. We can't used government funding for stem cell research. We also give churches tax exemptions, even though their hands are so far up all politicians back, i could swear I was watching a horrible Jeff Dunham special.

My personal opinion is that I don't care if people believe in God(s). I care that this country allows religion, in general, to influence our laws and the way we progress in the scientific community as well as how we dictate civil rights. How many people could we have saved if we started stem cell research in full force 10 years ago from Alzheimer and Parkinson's as well as many other diseases?

The belief in a god is fine when it's confined to one's personal domain, but when it starts affecting others directly; I feel that it's a important line, crossed.

Uberom · #**172** 01-15-2011, 01:47 AM

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How many people could we have saved if we started stem cell research in full force 10 years ago from Alzheimer and Parkinson's as well as many other diseases?

You're making the mistake of assuming that the people who make the important decisions in this world actually have that agenda. Stated fact: the money wants global depopulation.

Supreme · #**173** 01-15-2011, 02:07 AM

The world has been destroyed and recreated many times over. Scientist concluded that earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Every 150k years (since about 65 million years ago)the earth burns up and is "recreated". There is no true way to determine if current civilization is actually the FIRST.

Scientist cant explain, however, what or who caused the "big bang".

Religion is spiritual to many. It is in your heart. Because you want it there and you want to believe. I personally believe in god (someone/something of intelligent design had to have created existence) but i do not believe in religion.

chtulu · #**174** 01-15-2011, 02:10 AM

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The world has been destroyed and recreated many times over. Scientist concluded that earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Every 150k years (since about 65 million years ago)the earth burns up and is "recreated". There is no true way to determine if current civilization is actually the FIRST.

Scientist cant explain, however, what or who caused the "big bang".

Religion is spiritual to many. It is in your heart. Because you want it there and you want to believe. I personally believe in god (someone/something of intelligent design had to have created existence) but i do not believe in religion.

One did something HAVE to create us? Why do you need to believe that? Also... this is the first time I've heard of a theory that conjectures that the earth is destroyed every once in awhile, and is recycled. I have a hard time believing that since we can date things much older than 150 thousand years old in existence now.

Mardur · #**175** 01-15-2011, 02:41 AM

Chtulu what's the difference between blindly denying god and blindly believing in god? Why do only one of these situations make you an "idiot?"

Mardur · #**176** 01-15-2011, 02:42 AM

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chtulu · #**177** 01-15-2011, 02:48 AM

An easy way to explain why I am hostile to religion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtC65lm4MGE

Basically, because I'm tired of people just using God to explain everything and people to use religion to manipulate people. But seriously, just watch the clip.

Kassel · #**178** 01-15-2011, 02:53 AM

Thank god for the Grammy, Thank god for the touchdown, Thank god for blowing up the enemy's sacred ground.

Alawen Everywhere · #**179** 01-15-2011, 02:55 AM

Do you understand that pathos and ethos are both parts of rhetoric besides logos? Your entire premise here is that logos is all that matters.

Most people in religion don't care about the dogma and they never read their sacred texts aside from hearing someone drone on about it once a week or whatever. Most organized religion is about socializing and community. Sometimes it's about a really charismatic religious leader.

Many people are much more affected by things like emotion, reputation, authority and tradition than they are by reason and pointing out their lack of reason is insulting to them.

Now can we talk about the giant turtle?

chtulu · #**180** 01-15-2011, 03:04 AM

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Do you understand that pathos and ethos are both parts of rhetoric besides logos? Your entire premise here is that logos is all that matters.

Most people in religion don't care about the dogma and they never read their sacred texts aside from hearing someone drone on about it once a week or whatever. Most organized religion is about socializing and community. Sometimes it's about a really charismatic religious leader.

Many people are much more affected by things like emotion, reputation, authority and tradition than they are by reason and pointing out their lack of reason is insulting to them.

Now can we talk about the giant turtle?

I'd be ok with religion if it was all about community and helping others. But when those religions start asking their members to donate money to propagate against gay marriage, or lobby politicians into voting against pro choice and stem cell research, then I have a huge problem with it; and lately religion has really been poking it's nose in things that are not their business other than their own personal principals.