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[Croco]

Originally Posted by Daloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont like the cocky vibes that Kittens give out lately.

You are meant to be the "better half" of the community, and here you are shitting it all up once again. We need either a new Kittens or new leadership ASAP to fix the branding.

Yeah don't you kittens know there's only 1 guild that's allowed to be cocky and shit it up everywhere?! Kittens trying to dethrone Freedom wonders will never cease. Then again kittens does have more solo raid kills than freedom so maybe this was bound to happen.

[Nirgon]

I didn't see any ntov dragons or klandi/zlandi in your free rotation either.

Perhaps the possibility exists but we've been unable to discover the faster than light speed goal posts on the move.

I truly believe we're gonna get you there on understanding this situation. In the mean time, come for the open raid targets on green and see how simple it is. People show up, kill the mob and roll on the drops. There's no red tape like "has this person ever killed a raid mob in everquest before".

I mean, just think of the precedent being set. Are you going to tell TLP guilds that want to come over and play that they're "a TLP guild" that has killed the statue and fear golems before? Or call anyone a troll who makes good on meeting criteria and then throw them out of the UN?

Want you to seriously consider,
D.N., DDS

[druidbob]

Do a /all seal on Blue right now, zero players online. Same thing yesterday. They logged on to kill vindi, again to kill naggy, and haven't been seen since. They have no intention of actually playing on Blue. That's not an active guild, that's a snipe crew. We see it, and so do the GMs.

[Nirgon]

All of my characters are level 60 and raid ready. I don't need more alts on the overfarmed beta. In fact, I have a 60 of every class. We are interested in testing mobs on the beta, it is that simple. Any "trolling" is due to us responding to how absolutely ridiculous your claims are, or continuing to move goal posts that shouldn't exist to begin with.

[Snaggles]

Out of curiosity I've done a /w all and usually find 3 people or less from Seal Team online. I don't know when they play but it doesn't speak to the active presence on Blue.

Doing a /w all for Riot, AG, and Kittens frequently nets "Your request was cut short...too many players". Freedom seems more likely to return a specific number (at the moment 16) but I've seen this message quite often with them as well. For comparison, nobody from ST is currently online.

So the question (to me) is what determines a raid presence and are these players simply offline when I am not or are they being shuffled around via clever guild removals/inviting. Is one vindi kill and one naggy kill sufficient or is it a stunt to meet the bare minimum requirement?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by druidbob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do a /all seal on Blue right now, zero players online. Same thing yesterday. They logged on to kill vindi, again to kill naggy, and haven't been seen since. They have no intention of actually playing on Blue. That's not an active guild, that's a snipe crew. We see it, and so do the GMs.

I was posting this same thing after noticing it. Very odd.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of my characters are level 60 and raid ready. I don't need more alts on the overfarmed beta. In fact, I have a 60 of every class. We are interested in testing mobs on the beta, it is that simple. Any "trolling" is due to us responding to how absolutely ridiculous your claims are, or continuing to move goal posts that shouldn't exist to begin with.

Lol you guys showed up in October when FRAG and Riot were banned, and the unbanned guilds that had worked out things between themselves were reasonably accommodating, if I recall.

Asking on 12/31/20, like 12 hours before the first draft took place, to also enter is 100% trolling. The way you're going about it now is trolling. It is plainly obvious. You can tell by the way that it is.

If you want to test mobs, then set up a test server.

[Nirgon]

Naw I only showed up for the recent Vindis.

Phatez can deal with all the beta red tape, high emotions UN and various bans from it/reinvites. I've seen the sickness of this server and have long known the dragons sickness that lies on even the Kunark mobs here.

Maybe the "troll" comments will stop if you just play with a straight deck and quit being so hostile to him.

[strongNpretty]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of my characters are level 60 and raid ready. I don't need more alts on the overfarmed beta. In fact, I have a 60 of every class. We are interested in testing mobs on the beta, it is that simple. Any "trolling" is due to us responding to how absolutely ridiculous your claims are, or continuing to move goal posts that shouldn't exist to begin with.

Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Dude.. This has to be what you look like.... Honestly, how can i not assume that's your physical appearance.. You need to get figure out how to move your legs again my man..

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[strongNpretty]

Another possibility of Nirgon's physical appearance in 2021. Krang lookin ma'fucka.
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