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Of all the numbers-go-up that affect you as a nameless labor drone, GDP is probably one of the least personally meaningful. It simply says the economy grew as a whole, says nothing about your share of it, and the way things have been going, your share of it shrank over the same period.

If all the ultra-wealthy can say in response to wealth tax proposals is threaten tax flight or regime change-- holy shit that wealth deserves to be confiscated all the more. They are welcome to try regime change... the ultra wealthy don't have a good track record winning that one in the last 300 years.

Personal wealth concentrated in excess of $1billion is only ever achieved through the application of unimaginable aggregate suffering and injustice. Simply having that much money is sinful, even Jesus knew it. IMO, frankly, they'd be lucky it's a wealth tax and not a bullet to the back of the head like it often was in the 1800's/1900's. Of course, we'd have to abolish the Senate in order to regain control of the government to then ever use it in a useful way, and that will never happen short of revolution.

Don't fall for their lies. You are for more useful to them than they are to you. Think about it lol, how convenient that they've got everyone thinking: "If you tax ultra rich multibillionaire people, everything will fall apart!"
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Old Yesterday, 11:06 AM
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Both were technologies that (irrationally) scared people into thinking they were going to ruin everything ... but ultimately both are just another tool.
Loramin. You are so out of touch. I made a point proving why your analogy isn't correct, and you just breeze right past it and restate your original, debunked point.

Was calculator design driving the world economy the way that AI chip design is? Did calculator technology cause market surges like we've seen with NVIDIA? (over a 1000% appreciation in less than 5 years - Stock went from $13 a share in 2020 to $170 a share in 2025)

The answer is no. AI chip design is currently on pace to be a TRILLION DOLLAR a year business in just the next few years.

Does anyone remember when Texas Instruments stock saw a 1000% increase because of calculator chips?? Again, the answer is no.

You, and everyone elses take about AI being just the new thing that sparks irrational fear is part and parcel of the problem. Some of it is irrational fear, like AI "taking over"

But part of the fear is completely rational, like companies being driven out of business because they can't compete. Not just because of the technology it produces, but because technology producers can't compete with giants like NVIDIA.
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Old Yesterday, 11:44 AM
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Of all the numbers-go-up that affect you as a nameless labor drone, GDP is probably one of the least personally meaningful. It simply says the economy grew as a whole, says nothing about your share of it, and the way things have been going, your share of it shrank over the same period.

If all the ultra-wealthy can say in response to wealth tax proposals is threaten tax flight or regime change-- holy shit that wealth deserves to be confiscated all the more. They are welcome to try regime change... the ultra wealthy don't have a good track record winning that one in the last 300 years.

Personal wealth concentrated in excess of $1billion is only ever achieved through the application of unimaginable aggregate suffering and injustice. Simply having that much money is sinful, even Jesus knew it. IMO, frankly, they'd be lucky it's a wealth tax and not a bullet to the back of the head like it often was in the 1800's/1900's. Of course, we'd have to abolish the Senate in order to regain control of the government to then ever use it in a useful way, and that will never happen short of revolution.

Don't fall for their lies. You are for more useful to them than they are to you. Think about it lol, how convenient that they've got everyone thinking: "If you tax ultra rich multibillionaire people, everything will fall apart!"
Why should we raise taxes? we dont spend taxes on anything that benefits me.

Taxes go directly to people that hate me and hate my way of life.
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Nice lines. Individual income tax got nothing to do with taxing wealth over a billion though? And even less to do with there being a tonne of jobs which aren’t done that could be.
90% is a smidge less confiscatory but knocking that off seems to positively correlate to good number becoming more gooder.
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The answer is no. AI chip design is currently on pace to be a TRILLION DOLLAR a year business in just the next few years.

Does anyone remember when Texas Instruments stock saw a 1000% increase because of calculator chips?? Again, the answer is no.

You, and everyone elses take about AI being just the new thing that sparks irrational fear is part and parcel of the problem. Some of it is irrational fear, like AI "taking over"

But part of the fear is completely rational, like companies being driven out of business because they can't compete. Not just because of the technology it produces, but because technology producers can't compete with giants like NVIDIA.
Its not rational at all, I am sure the computer industry hit numbers like that, and has put the same number of people out of work that AI will. It also created that many jobs.

This is printing the press all over again.
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This is printing the press all over again.
What a braindead take. Ok, logging out. It's like talking to a fucking wall in here. Enjoy the discourse, all.
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Old Yesterday, 11:55 AM
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Why should we raise taxes? we dont spend taxes on anything that benefits me.
Not true, but I doubt you'll ever be convinced of that.

If nothing else, you should want taxes raised on multibillionaires because money is power and it will help check their ability to amass undue power and influence. Jeff Bezos being able to use his billions to buy politicians gives him power directly over you and very much affects you negatively

Why did the Epstein files go from "on (Pam Bondi's) desk right" now, to "What Epstein files?" a couple days later? Because you don't have any fucking power compared to these people.

Take it and make a fund out of it to invest in start-ups for all I care.
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Old Yesterday, 11:56 AM
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What a braindead take. Ok, logging out. It's like talking to a fucking wall in here. Enjoy the discourse, all.
lmao

the bishops didnt want to make the printing pres because they thought the poor would print missinformation.
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Not true, but I doubt you'll ever be convinced of that.

If nothing else, you should want taxes raised on multibillionaires because money is power and it will help check their ability to amass undue power and influence. Jeff Bezos being able to use his billions to buy politicians gives him power directly over you and very much affects you negatively

Why did the Epstein files go from "on (Pam Bondi's) desk right" now, to "What Epstein files?" a couple days later? Because you don't have any fucking power compared to these people.
If jeff bezos can buy a politician for $3300 a lot of other people can too.
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