Bob's Perfect World- A wall of text regarding the raid scene on P99

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't quite understand what's "unfair" about the situation, at least with regards to what's been discussed in this thread. If you want the windows shortened, you should advocate for that directly, but it's tangential to Bob's suggsted lasseiz-fair raiding ruleset.

My complaints about the raid scene were relevant in the context I mentioned them (you can go back and check), and I already responded to Bob's suggestion. This thread isn't entirely about Bob's idea anymore. A big problem with his idea was that it doesn't fix the raid scene for the guilds outside of the top two. For those guilds the only way to compete is to devote an amount of time to the game that was never required in classic. That's what I believe is unfair. If you've ever actually been in the situation of having to track for a raid mob with variance on this server you'll know that it's ridiculous. Most raid mobs have a 48 hour variance which means their window can be up to four days long. Sure, there are ways to make it work (like tracking while doing something else if you're able to be near a computer all day), but it's still a colossal waste of time that was never needed in classic. While lots of things in eq are a huge waste of time, this is unique because it was invented here - it isn't classic at all.

[Dr4z3r]

You're right that the discussion was relevant in context. I still think advocating more directly for reduced windows would be good. I would think that cutting them in half wouldn't exactly plunge the server back into darkness.

[Ennoia]

Do no question Bob's wallet.

[CrotchCricket]

BOB IS RIGHT!!!! DOG EAT DOG WORLD!!!! SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST....LET ALL THESE BABIES PACK UP THEIR SHIT AND LEAVE!!!!!!

As far as I remember, in "classic EQ" training and KS'ing and all that good stuff was an everyday occurance. It taught respect and it took away the sense of feeling priviledged...in fact poopsocking wasn't even a term, because no one felt they had the exclusive rights to a "camp". You either killed or be killed, and guess what thats the way it was. All this baby shit has to stop...

And one side note. I'm sick of hearing about "uber" or "raid" guilds on this server. I have not see one of either on this server. All I see is guilds with 60+ members swarming and poopsocking. A raid is not overmatching your foe by sending in an army of drones. That is swarming. And uber is not sitting with your whole guild down in Trak's lair for a week just to make sure you can officially tell God on your way out that you wasted your whole entire life playing EQ.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. GM's, "uber guilds" and us as a community are clearly failing. I've never seen hypocracy at such an alarming rate as I have in the last couple weeks. Recently- i was told by a guide that "considering all they do, they deserve a couple of perks." Haha well needless to say i about shit myself. Do we have a United States Congressman working as a guide on P99? As far as I know this server is built to serve the community who play on it, not those who operate it. Sounds to me that adminstration on P99 is confused like the administration in the White House. You servant to the community, thats the bed you made....now sleep in it.

****THIS POST WAS ALREADY POSTED IN SERVER CHAT BUT WAS BOUNCED TO RnF MOST LIKELY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANNA HEAR THE TRUTH****

[casdegere]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My complaints about the raid scene were relevant in the context I mentioned them (you can go back and check), and I already responded to Bob's suggestion. This thread isn't entirely about Bob's idea anymore. A big problem with his idea was that it doesn't fix the raid scene for the guilds outside of the top two. For those guilds the only way to compete is to devote an amount of time to the game that was never required in classic. That's what I believe is unfair. If you've ever actually been in the situation of having to track for a raid mob with variance on this server you'll know that it's ridiculous. Most raid mobs have a 48 hour variance which means their window can be up to four days long. Sure, there are ways to make it work (like tracking while doing something else if you're able to be near a computer all day), but it's still a colossal waste of time that was never needed in classic. While lots of things in eq are a huge waste of time, this is unique because it was invented here - it isn't classic at all.

How can you say it is unfair? Put the time in and even the score. You get in what you put in. For 48 hours, people have their characters sitting in those zones doing nothing. no one says that other guilds can not do the same. Personally, I like to play, I have RL friends that I group with and we have a ball, but I got a life beyond the pixels, especially with SWTOR coming down the pipe. It is what it is and if its harshing your buzz, step away man.

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by CrotchCricket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. GM's, "uber guilds" and us as a community are clearly failing. I've never seen hypocracy at such an alarming rate as I have in the last couple weeks. Recently- i was told by a guide that "considering all they do, they deserve a couple of perks." Haha well needless to say i about shit myself. Do we have a United States Congressman working as a guide on P99? As far as I know this server is built to serve the community who play on it, not those who operate it. Sounds to me that adminstration on P99 is confused like the administration in the White House. You servant to the community, thats the bed you made....now sleep in it.

I feel like I may regret even replying to this post, but I feel the need to say it:

Nilbog, Rogean, and everyone else who works on this server, don't owe you shit. Go back to WoW.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like I may regret even replying to this post, but I feel the need to say it:

Nilbog, Rogean, and everyone else who works on this server, don't owe you shit.

^This, I have said this exactly in most my posts on this subject over the last week.

It's Nilbogs sandbox, who are we to demand he removes the cat shit in it.

[feste]

Originally Posted by casdegere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got a life beyond the pixels, especially with SWTOR coming down the pipe.

hehe

[CrotchCricket]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like I may regret even replying to this post, but I feel the need to say it:

Nilbog, Rogean, and everyone else who works on this server, don't owe you shit. Go back to WoW.

Didn't your mommy teach you not to put words in other peoples mouths? I'm not saying he owes anyone anything. The point is the server is a community and the adminstrators are the servants of the community. Yes Nilbog created the Sandbox...but i think Nilbog wants to share the Sandbox, not play in it by himself. Not once did i say they owe anything, my point was that they should not feel entitled to extra. Also I've never played WoW..actually i played on Nilbog's original server, and often enough with him. And I didn't wanna say this last part, but im in the ranting mood. You're a fuckhead so do us all a favor and disconnect DSL from your mama's trailer so you can shut the fuck up.

Peace,
The Props

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by CrotchCricket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is the server is a community and the adminstrators are the servants of the community.

No, they are not.

The server staff are community volunteers who do this in their free time, and they are not obligated to do anything for you or anyone else by anything but their own goodwill.