Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1: Mage is a better group DPS class than Shaman
2: Enchanters solo better than Warriors

These statements are not up for debate amongst sane human beings
Why does <Vanquish> allow DSM to be a member?

Imagine being so salty at a conversation on elf forums, you actually change your signature to include the straw men you created in a desperate effort to win a debate (but lost anyway).

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are 800+ posts of just insults and memes from other users because people can't admit to being wrong, or have a civil conversation. Your own posts are included in this count. Hope this helps.

The real summary of the thread is everybody has agreed that in an Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric group, the DPS of the fourth member is irrelevant.

When comparing Mages to Shamans, everybody has agreed the only benefit you get from a Mage is a little more DPS and CoTH if you need it.

At this point it is simply preference whether you prefer a small boost in DPS and CoTH over a Shamans broad toolkit that increases safety and opens up more camps. When looking at DPS break points, the extra DPS a Mage provides over a Shaman isn't really enough to get you additional spawns unless you play for long sessions. The difference in kill speed between 200 DPS and 230 DPS on Fungi King is 89 seconds vs. 77 seconds. For 12 seconds to actually give you another Fungi King spawn, you would need to kill Fungi King/PH 150 times in a single session.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine being so salty at a conversation on elf forums, you actually change your signature to include the straw men you created in a desperate effort to win a debate (but lost anyway).

Imagine being an enormous troll posting 700+ times and attacking the combined post count of multiple people. I'm not gonna say the A word or the R word but you gotta have some mental issues to make this one of your talking points. It honestly makes you look fucking insane. It's almost as dumb as me saying if I took the username of every other poster here I could prolly spell PlsNoBan and everyone named PlsNoBan is an idiot but completely ignoring the fact that my username is also PlsNoBan. You can't attack people for something then do it (more than 2x more) than anyone else. You fucking baboon.

What's the barrier to entry for <Vanquish> these days? They really taking anyone with a pulse eh?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine being an enormous troll posting 700+ times and attacking the combined post count of multiple people. I'm not gonna say the A word or the R word but you gotta have some mental issues to make this one of your talking points. It honestly makes you look fucking insane. It's almost as dumb as me saying if I took the username of every other poster here I could prolly spell PlsNoBan and everyone named PlsNoBan is an idiot but completely ignoring the fact that my username is also PlsNoBan. You can't attack people for something then do it (more than 2x more) than anyone else. You fucking baboon.

What's the barrier to entry for <Vanquish> these days? They really taking anyone with a pulse eh?

Yikes.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yikes.

Couldn't agree more. This thread and every one of your posts in it is a huge yikes.

Still waiting on you to give me the last word as promised.

[cd288]

Seems he's also starting to shift to the same thing he criticized and ignored Cyx for doing, i.e., copying and pasting the same reply into multiple replies over and over. What a shock

[Allishia]

Mages do way more dps then shaman, sorry I didn't read all the 200 pages but I saw somewhere someone said a mage only does a little more dps then shaman... crazy, fluffy alone can wreck rog dps in some areas, combine chain nukes and look out!

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages do way more dps then shaman, sorry I didn't read all the 200 pages but I saw somewhere someone said a mage only does a little more dps then shaman... crazy, fluffy alone can wreck rog dps in some areas, combine chain nukes and look out!

You just activated DSMs trap card

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You just activated DSMs trap card

lmfao

[Allishia]

I can't wait to get off work, fluffy and I are heading to KC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages do way more dps then shaman, sorry I didn't read all the 200 pages but I saw somewhere someone said a mage only does a little more dps then shaman... crazy, fluffy alone can wreck rog dps in some areas, combine chain nukes and look out!

Lmao oh man here we go again! A new victim for DSM!

But yeah you are correct. Even just looking at the damage for a water pet (think that's the BS one right?) vs. Shaman pet; then consider that you're churning through mobs so a Shaman's DOTs aren't really useful because they're never running the full damage meanwhile a top level Mage is nuking for 1,024 HP or so plus it's pet destroying (even general pet DPS is higher than a shaman pet at that level I believe, not even considering the big boost for the Mage pet from its backstabs too). Of course, every now and then a class can out-DPS another because it's RNG (that's why DSM has cherry-picked parses), but not consistently.

But again you're dealing with a guy who has like a mental block over admitting when he's been proven wrong multiple times.