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Old 07-25-2013, 03:32 PM
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Sadly , you don't realize that wiping the server will

A) Cause the legitimate players who have been here for 6 months+ to quit, and never return

B) Leave you with the people who already have way to much time on their hands, to pillage and violate your "clean slate"

Sure, go for it, see what kind of mentality the people who actually came back after everything was deleted would have. You would actually achieve exactly the opposite of what you're thinking.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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Tell me then, if we do wipe and start over, how would be stop all the problems from happening again, or the raid meta currently established in the game?

Tell me. All I hear are people repeating themselves without giving a solid explanation as to how this will fix these type of problems.

So tell me, give me something that makes sense and gives your side of the argument some credibility.

If I wanted shit yelled at me over and over again that made absolutely no fucking sense I'd call my Mother-in-law.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:47 PM
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Tell me then, if we do wipe and start over, how would be stop all the problems from happening again, or the raid meta currently established in the game?

Tell me. All I hear are people repeating themselves without giving a solid explanation as to how this will fix these type of problems.

So tell me, give me something that makes sense and gives your side of the argument some credibility.

If I wanted shit yelled at me over and over again that made absolutely no fucking sense I'd call my Mother-in-law.
Well, for starters it would completely destroy the market for possible RMT for a very long time, not indefinitely but a very long time.

A fresh server gives the opportunity to really micro-manage the total platinum on the server and also keep track of the high end items switching hands. As it is now, it is impossible to know what is legit and what isn't after so many years of corruption and exploits.

A fresh server comes with a lot of opportunity for the staff to make changes to preemptively combat future problems.

As for the "unspoken millions of players that dont visit the forums" lol

Nobody playing p99 right now should be against a fresh start. Progression servers weren't the hottest shit to hit Live EQ in the past decade for nothing.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:31 PM
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We're all here for the same thing, because we enjoy the game. Why wouldn't you want to play it fresh again? Time is not the issue if you're talking about investing in a 13 year old emulated video game.

And I'd say to wait for the dupe/etc to be fixed before a wipe. Just to entertain your empty argument, tell me all about how you think these dupers are going to sit and level characters to 60 so they can farm and dupe more AoN's? Or do you just think they'll farm shiny brass shields and dupe them instead? I'm genuinely interested.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:34 PM
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Sure it'd suck to lose my fungi and plat and gear, but I'd readily give up what I've accumulated over 3 years to play with everyone brand new and hoping for a cracked staff or reveling in my first fine steel drop with the zones bursting with players.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:35 PM
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It took me 2 1/2 years to level up my toon precisely because I don't play that often and am not addicted. In truth, the people who are whining about wanting it wiped are the ones who play too much, otherwise they wouldn't much care about what others have that they don't, and they would realise how much time it takes to level a character if you have shit to do outside of the game. Poppycock, my only concern is putting an end to the annoying lag that keeps battering groups and raids. A velious launch would also be nice.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:35 PM
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I don't get the whole "I've been here too long enjoying classic EQ, if you deleted everything and made it classic EQ I'd quit."
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:35 PM
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Like I've said before I'm fine either way, I enjoy the game as is but would also still play if there were to be a wipe. Its a win-win either way.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:40 PM
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1. The server is 4 years old and still on kunark. With the original intent of the server to follow classic timeline progression, I dont think anyone expected p99 to go past 4 years without a reset, termination, or lucilin progression.

2. The server is still on kunark, a reset would not only give nilbog breathing room for velious development,it would give people something to do again instead of (cant believe im sayong this) farm epics to sell....

3. You cant tell me the majority of p99rs dont browse the forum... 200+ viewing server chat as we speak. This is EQ not counterstrike, what else do you think people on here do when they are bored at work / school?

4. This is an emulated server... If you played here with the intention of all your "hard work" lasting through the ages you have a screw loose. The devs owe us nothing, and could have scrapped it at any point in the last 4 years.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:07 PM
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I don't get the whole "I've been here too long enjoying classic EQ, if you deleted everything and made it classic EQ I'd quit."
that sounds like a problem with your personal comprehension if you ask me. we don't have to justify ourselves to you. just because you don't wish to believe it doesn't make it any less valid.

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1. The server is 4 years old and still on kunark. With the original intent of the server to follow classic timeline progression, I dont think anyone expected p99 to go past 4 years without a reset, termination, or lucilin progression.
i'm not bothered by this.

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2. The server is still on kunark, a reset would not only give nilbog breathing room for velious development,it would give people something to do again instead of (cant believe im sayong this) farm epics to sell....
what? how does he get more time by having to relaunch the server? how does the second half of this even relate to the first?

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3. You cant tell me the majority of p99rs dont browse the forum... 200+ viewing server chat as we speak. This is EQ not counterstrike, what else do you think people on here do when they are bored at work / school?
they don't. not everybody is a forumquester.

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4. This is an emulated server... If you played here with the intention of all your "hard work" lasting through the ages you have a screw loose. The devs owe us nothing, and could have scrapped it at any point in the last 4 years.
you're right. the devs owe nothing. we expect nothing. we got nothing. when it's gone, i'm gone.

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For those of you saying you would 100% quit if there was a wipe. Regardless if you're a 6-month vet or several years. I have a question....

Aren't you playing because it's classic EQ? And not because you've now acquired lots of goodies? What if the devs came out and said "We lost all data, it's gone... we had a catastrophic failure and the backups aren't loading, we have to start over, sorry everyone..." Would you leave then? Would you leave if the game got wiped accidentally? I'm genuinely curious... because if in 2002 SoE announced my server got wiped accidentally, or intentionally because of unforseen circumstances... I most certainly wouldn't of quit playing...

I'm just wondering...
i'm playing because there was a break in well developed games, and i started playing, so i kept playing. i'd like to see my character, my account, do well. if you take away my character and my account, i'd have no more motivation. this is open and shut, really.

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Well, for starters it would completely destroy the market for possible RMT for a very long time, not indefinitely but a very long time.
no, it wouldn't. less supply with the same demand just means higher prices.

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A fresh server gives the opportunity to really micro-manage the total platinum on the server and also keep track of the high end items switching hands. As it is now, it is impossible to know what is legit and what isn't after so many years of corruption and exploits.

A fresh server comes with a lot of opportunity for the staff to make changes to preemptively combat future problems.
more opportunity? more like more work for the volunteer staff who already can barely handle what we have.

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Nobody playing p99 right now should be against a fresh start. Progression servers weren't the hottest shit to hit Live EQ in the past decade for nothing.
and they died off for a reason: content was moving too fast.
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