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[Desmo]

Ill admit that Froovy and Internode were some of our best members. Internode was the botb Ranger and showed skill and class on any character he was on. Guy was upstanding, professional, and at one time a duper. Froovy was kind, helpful and exemplified every quality you would want in a guildmate let alone an enchanter and at one time he was a duper, maybe he still is.
As for Sentenza and Crazyeyes, both of those guys are assholes but can be forgiven. Maybe not CE because i dont know who owns him now.
The Mystical Order is made up of good people willing to fight for the benefit of their Guild. Sometimes we come off as douchebags and nothing we can do will change that to the have-nots.
In Two Weeks I hope we are still alive and fighting.

Desmo

[Briac]

I have been on this server for years, enjoying reliving my past glory’s, spending what time I have as a grown adult to level my single character. It’s been a blast, but was has truly saddened and frustrated me over the years is viewing all these threads slagging each other off, RnF or not. Ladies and Gents, it’s a game most of us played 14 years ago, why are you still behaving like the kids you were then? Truly sad, I really do wonder what my non-gaming mates would say if they read some of these comments in these posts… ‘sad bastards’ comes to mind!

I don’t often post on these forums, but I do read them often. And this post today has urged me to post for once.

Zeelot I have heard you’re a good guy, and that goes for some TMO members too, but unfortunately not all of your members are the same. You have a chance to start something off and be remembered for something bigger then TMO, you could be known as the person that made this server truly great for the whole community.

All im asking that you kindly do is think about the community, and why this server was created. It was built by the community leaders for the community. You claim your guild only goes by the rules, and it’s these rules which make you horde end game content (which your mains do not need), which ultimately means the rest of the EQ loving community don’t get to see the end game they once did or never had the chance to do.

Please explain to me the reasons why TMO feel the need to monopolise content and not share with the community? It’s an emulated server meant for everyone to enjoy all aspect of the game.

Competition is certainly classic, by its very nature it is the way it was designed, but this doesn’t mean the community are not allowed to come to a gentleman’s agreement and share! I just cannot understand why it brings more joy to you and your guild mates to batphone all hours of the day to kill stuff that you don’t need, with a force so large in numbers that it means all content isn’t a challenge… where is the drive and motivation… it’s not really for items, nor is it for the challenge?

Take for example epics, I for one want to quest mine from start to finish, you know, to get that feeling of achievement which EQ was once all about, and it did a tremendous job of making you feel that way. I can 100% say every single player on this server felt this back on live at some point, whether it was finally killing Ambassador DVinn in CB, or getting your first bit of planar armour, to then clearing your first plane, killing your first dragon etc.

I certainly didn’t come to play classic EQ to get my feeling of achievement by buying the bits I need for my epic because a few guilds monopolise the content.. Far from it, I joined to relive my past adventures and get that feeling of achievement once more, and actually downing each and every mob in order to earn them. But alas I have a real life, and therefore have a lot less time on my hands now that im a grown adult. So as it stands on this server, the few are blocking the majority of the P1999 community in doing what was meant to be a project for everyone. Why in today’s day and age can I not as a semi casual player get a shot at 14 year old content?

The arguments based on more time put in = more rewards is very true in most things, including RL. So yes you do have a claim to do this content, you have earnt it, but why would you continue to prevent other guilds at enjoying content that you do not need, it’s just not logical except purely for greed and selfish reasons. That’s where I come back to the community, EQ is a community, ALL the top guilds need to act like one so we can all enjoy it, simple as that.

I for one hope the ‘less hardcore’ players with lives outside EQ are given the opportunity by the community to enjoy all the content that Rogean, Nilbog etc have provided. I also hope that the GM’s reflect on my post and have the strength and fortitude to stand fast in their commitment to making this server something for the entire community once more. And if needs be, enforce a method which ensures that all raid level guilds get a chance at all content, a chance to feel achievement once more, a chance to relive our misspent youth.

Merry Christmas

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Desmo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Mystical Order is made up of good people willing to fight for the benefit of their Guild.

It would be swell if some of those good people could quit being so self-interested and think about fighting just once for the benefit of the Server, instead.

[Tasslehofp99]

What about all the other past incidents in which rules were broken through exploiting, training, KS'ing, kiting raid mobs, etc? Do we just forget about those and act like this is the first time TMO has ever done something shady?


Give me a break guys, seriously.

[skipdog]

I know many on this server have had years of seething hatred for TMO and this was an early Christmas present for them. But personally I think if this happened to any other guild where accounts are commonly shared, people would be on their side.... and it could happen to any guild that shares accounts. There's not much you can do to prevent this kind of things except not sharing accounts at all. There is only so much trust you can build with other people in your MMO guild... there really isn't a way to tell if someone is doing something like this.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know many on this server have had years of seething hatred for TMO and this was an early Christmas present for them. But personally I think if this happened to any other guild where accounts are commonly shared, people would be on their side.... and it could happen to any guild that shares accounts. There's not much you can do to prevent this kind of things except not sharing accounts at all. There is only so much trust you can build with other people in your MMO guild... there really isn't a way to tell if someone is doing something like this.

Well, I can't speak for anyone else because I'm not a mind-reader like you, but I have no pity for anyone that shares accounts. It provides a leg-up from a competitive standpoint, and it is a risk one enters into knowingly. It should be known too that sharing your details could negate all the effort you've put in.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I can't speak for anyone else because I'm not a mind-reader like you, but I have no pity for anyone that shares accounts. It provides a leg-up from a competitive standpoint, and it is a risk one enters into knowingly. It should be known too that sharing your details could negate all the effort you've put in.

Yes, I understand completely. That's a totally respectable position to have. I know account sharing does happen in other guilds and my only point was that I'll bet tons of people would be on that other guild's side if the same thing happened to them because of account sharing.... just because they 'aren't TMO'. My only point is that I'll bet many people's opinions would change if 'TMO' was almost any other guild name with most other factors in the reasoning for all of the account suspensions being the same.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I understand completely. That's a totally respectable position to have. I know account sharing does happen in other guilds and my only point was that I'll bet tons of people would be on that other guild's side if the same thing happened to them because of account sharing.... just because they 'aren't TMO'. My only point is that I'll bet many people's opinions would change if 'TMO' was almost any other guild name with most other factors in the reasoning for all of the account suspensions being the same.

That really hasn't proven to be true over the history of this server and the whole project. When exploiters/RMTers get busted they usually get crucified regardless of guild tag.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I understand completely. That's a totally respectable position to have. I know account sharing does happen in other guilds and my only point was that I'll bet tons of people would be on that other guild's side if the same thing happened to them because of account sharing.... just because they 'aren't TMO'. My only point is that I'll bet many people's opinions would change if 'TMO' was almost any other guild name with most other factors in the reasoning for all of the account suspensions being the same.

And you guys are too busy whining about how unfair that is to see WHY thats happening. You guys seriously think your terrible reputation is just a result of people being "jelly of your pixels" or some shit. If you want to see an example of why people think you're all scum just go take a look at Eccezan's post history over the past day or two. "I dont approve of what my guildmates do!" is not a valid defense, staying quiet and allowing your guildmates and officers to make you all look like a bunch of shitstains makes you just as responsible for your negative image.

What happened to when TMO was trying to act like some kind of white knights protecting the server? All that shit about how you'd "never let the sleeper be woken" so those dirty casuals you despise so much would be able to get primals some day (on a date and time of your choosing of course since you feel like you should get to decide who does or doesn't get to kill raid content.)

Did you guys forget which mask you were trying to put on or does the leadership really have so little control over their members that they couldn't rein in the constant shit talk against even guilds like BDA for daring to try to kill classic content that you zerg with your geared up 52 alts? God forbid a guild dare to take a fucking Vox kill off of you 4 years after server release.

[arsenalpow]

I appreciate everyone piling on TMO but all this "change for the benefit of the server" rhetoric is the same speech I've been giving since BDA gave me a platform. We as a server could have done this sooner, but if the impetus for change is this ban then let's actually do something. We have two weeks to prove that this place doesn't have to be a shit show.