Raid Scene Poll

[kotton05]

I have faith in zag, the small time I knew him on a personal level he was by far one of the coolest/fair/most helpful folks. Much like Jeremy...in ways...

[Prismaticshop]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. No one wants to try and compete for dragons. It's not fun trying to compete with an army twice one's size. The solution to this dilemma is to join the guild with the most people and most alts. That guild right now is TMO. You can be as skilled and organized as you want, but unless if have a similarly large force, there is no real competing.

Everyone joins TMO because it's guaranteed loot. This is a problem which will keep perpetuating itself because it's 2013(almost 2014, not 1999.

that guild "was" TMO.

Not sure if anyone wants to be part of a guild whose leadership quit, who the staff threatened of disbanding and whom 86 accounts got banned for item duping...

Added to the fact that VP is now CSR, TMO has nothing else to offer that FE/IB doesnt, implying TMO goes ever back to raiding.

[Versus]

Woah bro (Tass), my comment was in no way related to your comment. Nor was it inflammatory in any way. Then again I shouldn't be surprised, you almost have an anyuerism every time TMO comes into the conversation.

I understand why people are upset. I get that you all want a shot at the raid mobs and TMO takes the large majority of them, which breeds jealousy and contempt. It's not like TMO was using hacks to slay these mobs or mobilize faster...they just wanted it more and put in more effort. It was the same thing on Povar. Triton /pwn'd the server and everyone else competed for the scraps. They put in the time, they reaped the rewards. The major issue here is the slow crawl of Kunark. People app TMO and therefore need gear. You can't name me ONE raid mob that doesn't drop an item that is in need.

And here comes the part where you ask, "but WHY can't you just be charitable?!" I, PERSONALLY, just think that's a silly notion. TMO exists primarily to kill raid mobs since you know, that's what is fun in EQ. So that's what TMO does. It doesn't exist to give mobs/items (read: fun) away.

I feel for ya, I see your point. I'm not being inflammatory. Just telling you my .02c. Also, TMO brass may feel differently. I am merely a piss ant.

[Daldaen]

Out of pure curiosity, how do tradeable items generally work for most guilds? I've never raided in an era where the bis items are tradeable. So stuff like VS Legs/Trak BPs. If there is a raid where a cleric one drops and you have a new cleric app like 1-2 weeks old that needs, do you actually give it to them? Or do you bank it for a few months before giving it to them?

This goes for all guilds on this server.

[Versus]

If no one on the raid needs, it goes to the guild bank (maintained on a spreadsheet) or a main's appropriate leveled Alt. The newer classes can ask for it as time goes on which is discussed among officers/loot council and then awarded at a later date.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Woah bro (Tass), my comment was in no way related to your comment. Nor was it inflammatory in any way. Then again I shouldn't be surprised, you almost have an anyuerism every time TMO comes into the conversation.

I understand why people are upset. I get that you all want a shot at the raid mobs and TMO takes the large majority of them, which breeds jealousy and contempt. It's not like TMO was using hacks to slay these mobs or mobilize faster...they just wanted it more and put in more effort. It was the same thing on Povar. Triton /pwn'd the server and everyone else competed for the scraps. They put in the time, they reaped the rewards. The major issue here is the slow crawl of Kunark. People app TMO and therefore need gear. You can't name me ONE raid mob that doesn't drop an item that is in need.

And here comes the part where you ask, "but WHY can't you just be charitable?!" I, PERSONALLY, just think that's a silly notion. TMO exists primarily to kill raid mobs since you know, that's what is fun in EQ. So that's what TMO does. It doesn't exist to give mobs/items (read: fun) away.

I feel for ya, I see your point. I'm not being inflammatory. Just telling you my .02c. Also, TMO brass may feel differently. I am merely a piss ant.

You know nothing of povar. Or tritons relationship with that server. They were never overt assholes. They wanted to win content. After they beat the expansion they could give a shit. Triton was ten thousand times the guild TMO ever was. Triton and other guilds competed and were close in kills until late luclin/pop. Hell they worked together on some velious kills. Plus there was an honored rotation on the server.


Get my goddamns server name out your mouth.

[cyryllis]

its 350 dkp and 40 percent 30 and 60 day raid attendance to ask for high end loot out of bank..



Oh and you cant compare live raiding to here. Of course they beat expansions and moved on...there was a new expansion nearly twice a year. By the time you could beat vp velious was out and by the time st was farmed and aow was killes, luclin was out...then by the time you farmed vt keys and cleared vt a few times, pop was out...hit potime kill quarm a few times and then bam GoD was released. Fight through the unfinished buggy ass content of that expansion and move to the next. Plus we had the extra money grab expansions ykesha and ldon. We are stuck in kunark forever and people like to gear alts. Level 10s with vp loot are fun.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Woah bro (Tass), my comment was in no way related to your comment. Nor was it inflammatory in any way. Then again I shouldn't be surprised, you almost have an anyuerism every time TMO comes into the conversation.

I understand why people are upset. I get that you all want a shot at the raid mobs and TMO takes the large majority of them, which breeds jealousy and contempt. It's not like TMO was using hacks to slay these mobs or mobilize faster...they just wanted it more and put in more effort. It was the same thing on Povar. Triton /pwn'd the server and everyone else competed for the scraps. They put in the time, they reaped the rewards. The major issue here is the slow crawl of Kunark. People app TMO and therefore need gear. You can't name me ONE raid mob that doesn't drop an item that is in need.

And here comes the part where you ask, "but WHY can't you just be charitable?!" I, PERSONALLY, just think that's a silly notion. TMO exists primarily to kill raid mobs since you know, that's what is fun in EQ. So that's what TMO does. It doesn't exist to give mobs/items (read: fun) away.

I feel for ya, I see your point. I'm not being inflammatory. Just telling you my .02c. Also, TMO brass may feel differently. I am merely a piss ant.

Jealousy, no. Contempt, maybe, but only because of attitudes like this. Whatever happens, unless things don't change, have fun raiding Kunark for another 3 years when there's no raid content in Velious.

[Cecily]

I'm ok with that honestly lol. Tradeskill hell and Stormfeather...

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm ok with that honestly lol. Tradeskill hell and Stormfeather...

The only mob I ever fd flopped on top of the spawn point and cranked up the volume on. Also an alarm set on spawn times.