Public Raid Petitions: P99 Freedom of Information Act

[Pint]

Definitely would support public raid petitions, if a guild wants to try and petition another guild then they should be confident enough in their claim to air it publicly.

[portbitch69]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs != Devs.



The GMs allow guild reps to put on their Perry Mason seersucker suits and solicit the "court" for hours each weeks via the forums, game chat, Twitch streaming, text messages, phone calls, and Skype to resolve the "disputes" known only to them.

Then on top of that, they can even trade petitions and rules infractions like carbon credits to wash out penalties.

but you know Rogean has the final say, and how little he cares about this. he will delay until him and nilbog are ready for velious.

there is nothing stopping you guys from turning the raid discussion forum into this public petition forum.

tell your guild reps to stop the hours of behind the scenes "court" and just make it all public

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by portbitch69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is nothing stopping you guys from turning the raid discussion forum into this public petition forum.

tell your guild reps to stop the hours of behind the scenes "court" and just make it all public

This was my thought though it seems they want an arbitrator to structure/limit discussion.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by portbitch69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but you know Rogean has the final say, and how little he cares about this. he will delay until him and nilbog are ready for velious.

there is nothing stopping you guys from turning the raid discussion forum into this public petition forum.

tell your guild reps to stop the hours of behind the scenes "court" and just make it all public

The point is generally to provide structure to the whole process. Right now, I think most parties can agree that it's a disorganized mess. Making it public provides accountability where there is currently very little.

Dozens to hundreds of man hours are wasted every time there's a dispute. If this shouldn't be "law class" then the GMs should stop playing that game, because right now, it's nothing but an exercise on elf-litigation. A streamlined process of petition > response > ruling makes so much more sense than dubious skype sessions, PM's, and other ex parte communications.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GMs allow guild reps to put on their Perry Mason seersucker suits and solicit the "court" for hours each weeks via the forums, game chat, Twitch streaming, text messages, phone calls, and Skype to resolve the "disputes" known only to them.

Then on top of that, they can even trade petitions and rules infractions like carbon credits to wash out penalties.

It's sad , but true. (and funny when worded like that.

Guild disputes should be made public. It would end a lot of false accusing (extra work).
+Most of the people involved are not aware to what goes on in the behind the scene petition wars , until they are already facing the punishment.

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[Swish]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Definitely would support public raid petitions, if a guild wants to try and petition another guild then they should be confident enough in their claim to air it publicly.

Imagine the lawyering that would go on and people attempting to create loopholes based on previous decisions with slightly different circumstances.

Definitely a no vote. Sounds shitty for both GMs and players in practice.

[sambal]

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[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by sambal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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GM's on live certainly did mediate disputes outside of the game.

At worst, this proposal is just as "not classic" as what we have right now, but it is far more efficient and fair.

[mutonizer]

Private petitions: Stays 100% between GM/guide, petitioner and defendant. Reduces drama.
Public petitions: Everyone start sharing their own opinion everywhere, misinformation goes on rampage, things go completely crazy, people get mad at each other, puppies are sacrificed to the blood god, P9X News is created. Start buying tickets and popcorn...

[sambal]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GM's on live certainly did mediate disputes outside of the game.

At worst, this proposal is just as "not classic" as what we have right now, but it is far more efficient and fair.

To be honest I don't understand the problem.