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Old 08-04-2015, 03:50 PM
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Do you guys really think pointing out other non-classic things will make the devs suddenly change their minds?
Nope, but it's fun to read the hypocrisy.
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Old 08-04-2015, 03:53 PM
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Nope, but it's fun to read the hypocrisy.
I wouldn't say it's hypocrisy. Some things are just impossible to remove or force with the Titanium client.
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Old 08-04-2015, 04:45 PM
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I wouldn't say it's hypocrisy. Some things are just impossible to remove or force with the Titanium client.
Despite its massive failure, eqclassic had a functioning Trilogy client. I always wondered why the devs stuck with Titanium here. I mean, I am sure the Trilogy client meant a ton more work but was that the only reason? I have no idea how to build an emu server so I genuinely curious.
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Old 08-04-2015, 04:51 PM
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My understanding--I could be mistaken--was that P99 uses Titanium simply because that's what Eq-Emulator used. I believe this project originally started out as a faster alternative to EQC and immediate availability was more important than adherence to all classic features--many of which were patched in later on. EQC seems to have been run by perfectionists. Since EQC still isn't finished and likely never will be it's safe to say P99's more pragmatic approach was also the correct one. Suits me fine. I've no love for the Velious UI.

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Old 08-04-2015, 05:04 PM
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Nope, but it's fun to read the hypocrisy.
That word, it does not mean what you are pretending that it means.

The "classic is the goal, as close as we can make it" approach of the devs here, and the appreciation of that dedication by forum white knights, is not hypocrisy. The neverending attempts by you and select other whiners to paint it as such is, however, low-grade trolling and petty douchbaggery.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:33 PM
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That word, it does not mean what you are pretending that it means.

The "classic is the goal, as close as we can make it" approach of the devs here, and the appreciation of that dedication by forum white knights, is not hypocrisy. The neverending attempts by you and select other whiners to paint it as such is, however, low-grade trolling and petty douchbaggery.
Are you trying to tell me that the remaking of classic is a process — not a one-time event?

Get out of here with your logic.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:42 PM
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The "classic is the goal, as close as we can make it" approach of the devs here, and the appreciation of that dedication by forum white knights, is not hypocrisy.
So what is it then? What is saying you will do one thing but do another?


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The neverending attempts by you and select other whiners to paint it as such is, however, low-grade trolling and petty douchbaggery.
How am I hypocritical? Did I promise a classic server, and yet allow for far more grossly unclassic elements to it? Do I pretend to believe P99 is now a classic server just because it now has forced crappy 1999 graphics?

See, unlike you, I choose to exercise my voice and opinion. You call it whining because my opinion differs from your's, and that's okay ... for a 1st Grader. Be that as it may, you will grow up and realize that educated people voice their concerns.

I am certain if Luclin graphics were forced on you, you would be the first to complain. Feel free to deny this so that you can not look "hypocritical," amongst your kiddie peers.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:52 PM
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Was there any confirmation by GM/Dev's on whether or not the workaround is allowed?
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Old 08-07-2015, 12:38 PM
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I find it silly that the devs would tackle such an inconsequential detail to the game (that is completely up to the choice of the player) when there are long withstanding issues that have still not been addressed. Elephant in the room, everybody, but endurance? How about non-classic elements like meditation allowing us to sit down and view our environments, or websites designed to compile every EC message (maybe we should all sit in ec tunnel like people did in 1999), a user interface that has more functionality than we ever had, or, say, cable internet?!?!? Let's stop pretending this will ever be the truly authentic classic experience. And so if a feature that has less of an effect in gameplay (in this case, literally none whatsoever) than other, deliberately absent, classic elements (that are, to reiterate, up to the player), maybe... Just maybe... Maybe we should just let the player decide?
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Old 09-12-2015, 07:22 PM
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I just absolutely cannot fathom the whining that surrounds this. It's like some of you completely overlook the reality of the situation:

1) The devs that own and run this server are in charge of its direction, full stop
2) They have been consistently stating for years what that direction is, and have literally never changed from, "we are going to make it as classic as possible."

That's pretty much it. If that doesn't work for you, no problem! Fortunately P2002 is a thing now and choice is always good, right?
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