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Old 09-21-2016, 08:51 AM
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We're in 4 dimensions for sure and possibly 6.

http://discovermagazine.com/1997/nov...mhoneybees1263

Yes, that article is almost 20 years old and y'all's dimension debate is stuck around the 1900's. Saludeen is a moron or a terrible troll, so ignore them on this topic.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:54 AM
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There is so much wrong with that second gif and all you can point out is you don't see a noticeable orbital declination over a tiny tiny period out of a ~250 million year circuit around the milky way galaxy?
M'kay

Why would I try to prove the geocentric model? It's completely false. Or did you mean to ask me to prove the heliocentric model? Geocentrism and the Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Geocentrism_and_the_Quran
http://www.gotquestions.org/geocentrism-Bible.html
Observational proof of the heliocentric model
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ocentric_orbit
https://youtu.be/-j9JfMj1rkk
So you can't actually explain what you believe. I havn't formed a conclusion on the correct model because I don't conjecture or believe blindly like you, but it looks like heliocentric theory is nonsense. And if you'd rather just spam links then we can just do that and call it a day:
http://www.wildheretic.com/heliocent...-is-wrong-pt1/
https://aplanetruth.info/2015/04/11/...trism-is-dead/
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:55 AM
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We're in 4 dimensions for sure and possibly 6.

http://discovermagazine.com/1997/nov...mhoneybees1263

Yes, that article is almost 20 years old and y'all's dimension debate is stuck around the 1900's. Saludeen is a moron or a terrible troll, so ignore them on this topic.
Ironically, people who insult others without using any logic or arguments are the morons. Not to mention petty.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:57 AM
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There is so much wrong with that second gif and all you can point out is you don't see a noticeable orbital declination over a tiny tiny period out of a ~250 million year circuit around the milky way galaxy?
M'kay

Why would I try to prove the geocentric model? It's completely false. Or did you mean to ask me to prove the heliocentric model? Geocentrism and the Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Geocentrism_and_the_Quran
http://www.gotquestions.org/geocentrism-Bible.html
Observational proof of the heliocentric model
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ocentric_orbit
https://youtu.be/-j9JfMj1rkk
Perhaps you too can find a infamous quote and base your entire naive perception on it , while backing juvenile claims that could be explained in a basic textbook. Followed by claiming your a rebel and against the grain.

I mean shit, who needs relativity when we got Newtons laws lol
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:03 AM
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Ironically, people who insult others without using any logic or arguments are the morons. Not to mention petty.
I set up a dichotomy, so don't get holier than thou; and that's not irony. Not to mention I limited the scope of your knowledge specifically relating to this topic and not others. So basiy I said that you don't know what you're talking about or you're a terrible troll. Empiricism is a wonderful thing.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:11 AM
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Ironically, people who insult others without using any logic or arguments are the morons. Not to mention petty.
Well maybe you're drunk? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here... o.0
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:13 AM
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This thread delivers lol
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:31 AM
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I set up a dichotomy, so don't get holier than thou; and that's not irony. Not to mention I limited the scope of your knowledge specifically relating to this topic and not others. So basiy I said that you don't know what you're talking about or you're a terrible troll. Empiricism is a wonderful thing.
It doesn't take extensive knowledge to understand how silly it is to believe that the planets are governed by a magical 2D fabric in space that uses circular logic to explain how they're "falling" into it. And its circular logic because the 2D plane is supposed to be the cause of gravity yet it doesn't explain why the planets are causing the dimple to begin with unless they have "inherent gravity" and the plane is pointless.

You also conjecture about my level of knowledge. And if you supported empiricism then you would believe that the sun revolves around the earth since that's what we observe, without implying that's what's actually happening.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:42 AM
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Well, as always I operate from a position of profound ignorance, but it seems to me that if the sun rotates around the earth (as we see it), that would imply the earth is motionless, or at least not spinning as we otherwise suspect. If that is the case, why is there measurable differences in east-west bound flight durations after having account for wind, etc.?
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:47 AM
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Source : Albert Heisenberg Masters in Physics from Brown Univ. Specializing in photonics. Science Historian
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Genius and Geniuses: Who was smarter, Albert Einstein or Nikola Tesla?

There is so much wrong information on here. The question is, with all due respect, quite inane. How do you define "smarter"? Tesla was a brilliant inventor cum electrical engineer not a physicist, apples and oranges. One is better off asking who was smarter, Michelangelo or Darwin? The only reason people have jumped on the Tesla bandwagon is because his work is much easier to understand than Einstein's. Einstein's theory of General Relativity alone (and Einstein did a LOT of revolutionary work outside relativity), exceeds anything Tesla ever did. It is a work of rarest genius: it is much harder to understand 10 coupled, nonlinear, hyperbolic-elliptic partial differential equations than it is to understand A/C electricity (which owes more to the work of Faraday and Maxwell than it does to Tesla, but I digress).

I find it ironic that Tesla ridiculed Relativity because he couldn't understand it. At any rate, your GPS wouldn't work without it.

I love Tesla and he was an absolute genius inventor in his own right, but he was a very different kind of thinker. Einstein's intellectual achievements answer far deeper questions about nature (e.g. Matter, Energy, Time, Space, Motion, Gravity, Photons, etc) than anything Tesla was able to achieve during his otherwordly brilliant career.

Einstein’s career was worthy of 7 Nobel Prizes (maybe even 8): Fantasy Physics: Should Einstein Have Won 7 Nobel Prizes?

Tesla was a brilliant inventor, but modern technology (and science in general) owes more to Einstein than it does to Tesla (many of the inventions for which he is credited would eventually have been created).
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