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Old 09-07-2022, 10:23 AM
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I'll get some parses from a 60 mage on a TLP and provide data for you. We've established data gathered under different conditions are valid. Give me a day or two. At work and can't login atm.
Thanks for letting us know ahead of time that the data you are going to provide is useless. TLP is not P99.
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:24 AM
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Thanks for letting us know ahead of time that the data you are going to provide is useless. TLP is on P99.
Oh data that was gathered under different conditions than the topic of discussion is useless? That's weird... It's almost like you've said the opposite like 700 times?
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:25 AM
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:26 AM
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Oh data that was gathered under different conditions than the topic of discussion is useless? That's weird... It's almost like you've said the opposite like 700 times?
Its not different conditions, DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo. Mob stats do not change, and you haven't provided evidence to prove my data would change in a group.
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:35 AM
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Its not different conditions, DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo. Mob stats do not change, and you haven't provided evidence to prove my data would change in a group.
No. I present the above quoted post as evidence that you continue to misunderstand or are (intentionally or otherwise) misconstruing your level of understanding.

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What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data (which is a favored phrase around here). If your Enchanters suck and your Mage pet keeps dying, your Mage's DPS will suffer. That doesn't mean Mage DPS is actually that low. You just had bad luck with a group. Getting good group data that everybody can agree upon is tough. I can guarantee you even if I did provide what you are asking for, you would just say it isn't good enough. That is currently what you do with everything I provide anyway.
I present the above quoted post as evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that there are variables which would effect your Shaman's DPS ("skew the data") if you were in a group with other players. Again, this is an irrefutable fact, which you cannot refute hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

Thank you for providing evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that your post/statement/claim that "DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo" is in (irrefutable) fact false. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:36 AM
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Its not different conditions, DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo. Mob stats do not change, and you haven't provided evidence to prove my data would change in a group.
P99 and TLP are both EverQuest. The conditions are totally the same. My data is completely valid and you have not provided evidence that it isn't.

(do you see how dumb this sounds?)
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:44 AM
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P99 and TLP are both EverQuest. The conditions are totally the same. My data is completely valid and you have not provided evidence that it isn't.

(do you see how dumb this sounds?)
Yes it is dumb because they aren't the same lol. Way to prove an obvious point.

You haven't proven my data is on the same level though, and you cant.
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:49 AM
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Yes it is dumb because they aren't the same lol. Way to prove an obvious point.
I present the above quoted post as evidence that you continue to misunderstand or are (intentionally or otherwise) misconstruing your level of understanding.

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You haven't proven my data is on the same level though, and you cant.

I present the below quoted post as evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that there are variables which would effect your Shaman's DPS ("skew the data") if you were in a group with other players. Again, this is an irrefutable fact, which you cannot refute hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

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What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data (which is a favored phrase around here). If your Enchanters suck and your Mage pet keeps dying, your Mage's DPS will suffer. That doesn't mean Mage DPS is actually that low. You just had bad luck with a group. Getting good group data that everybody can agree upon is tough. I can guarantee you even if I did provide what you are asking for, you would just say it isn't good enough. That is currently what you do with everything I provide anyway.

What you don't seem to understand is that you have already (intentionally or otherwise) provided the above quote, which I present as evidence that you are in (irrefutable) fact fully aware that your post/statement/claim that "DPS on P99 is the same in groups and solo" is in (irrefutable) fact false. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignoring the (irrefutable) facts (and the majority of my posts in this thread) does not refute them, and will not make them (or me) go away hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:51 AM
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Yes it is dumb because they aren't the same lol. Way to prove an obvious point.

You haven't proven my data is on the same level though, and you cant.
I originally said the word "retarded" instead of dumb in that post. I edited it and am going to attempt to not use retarded and autistic in conversation with you. I know mentally retarded and autistic people and it's an insult to them to equate you. They could easily put together a better more coherent argument and argue it more honestly. You might be the least intelligent person most stubborn person I've encountered on these forums. An impressive feat to say the least.
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:56 AM
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I originally said the word "retarded" instead of dumb in that post. I edited it and am going to attempt to not use retarded and autistic in conversation with you. I know mentally retarded and autistic people and it's an insult to them to equate you. They could easily put together a better more coherent argument and argue it more honestly. You might be the least intelligent person most stubborn person I've encountered on these forums. An impressive feat to say the least.
I am not the one that tried to compare TLP and P99, two separate games. This shows how little you know about P99 if you think this is an apt comparison.

You are asking me to prove a negative. I am asking you to prove your claim my DPS data isn't valid. You can't do that, so you resort to nonsense.

If you want to go down the nonsense route of trying to prove a negative, then you need to prove Troxx's data is from P99. It could be from TLP, there is not data to disprove that theory so far.
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